Covid Mk ll

FYI sent to another bright person on the Forum[biggrin]


I can only order the New Moderna ba4/5 now and start giving in two weeks from now (Doctors and Nurse giving not me[biggrin])

There will be new bA4/5 of both Moderna and Pfizer. I can only get Moderna and have no idea about the other one yet. I am getting it myself Moderna BA4/5 before I go on holidays later in April!

The new Newer Moderna ba4/5 is a Single Dose like flu vax and most others and unlike all prior covid vaccine we have had- It will last 30 days only in my fridges unlike most other vaccines we have!

The first vaccine I had Astra Zeneca and later Pfizer targeted BA1. Last year I had a booster which was new then Moderna bivalent which is still available today which is NOT a BA 4/5 virus protections. Better than my first two which only cover Ba 1.



Information on the newer one which is Not able to be given for two weeks yet!!!!!!!!
Moderna COVID-19 bivalent (SPIKEVAX Bivalent Original/Omicron BA.4-5) booster dose vaccine | Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Experts .... what would they know.

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When you look back, through history, not a lot. Even one A. Einstein was incorrect. [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by Saitch

When you look back, through history, not a lot. Even one A. Einstein was incorrect. [biggrin]

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So was Newton. But throughout history, scientific experts have almost always been a lot closer to reality than non-experts, although any self respecting scientist will never claim to be exactly right - all science is simply the closest approximation to reality, based on observed data, that we have been able to reach to date. More or better data can be expected to modify our view of reality.

But this does not mean that a paper published by a qualified expert using largely faked data to support a preconceived view of reality is "more or better data".

(This description pretty much applies to both the basis for the idea that vaccines are associated with autism and the basis for treating covid with horse worming compound!)

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Originally Posted by Saitch

When you look back, through history, not a lot. Even one A. Einstein was incorrect. [biggrin]

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What did Einstein get wrong?

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

What did Einstein get wrong?

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Probably his wedding anniversary or his wife's birthday. [bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

What did Einstein get wrong?

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Spooky action at a distance. Although it's not that he was demonstrably wrong, it's just he was convinced there must be some other action at play because it all sounded implausible. So suppose in a way he was wrong in thinking he was wrong.

Now I'm all confused.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

So was Newton. But throughout history, scientific experts have almost always been a lot closer to reality than non-experts, although any self respecting scientist will never claim to be exactly right - all science is simply the closest approximation to reality, based on observed data, that we have been able to reach to date. More or better data can be expected to modify our view of reality.

But this does not mean that a paper published by a qualified expert using largely faked data to support a preconceived view of reality is "more or better data".

(This description pretty much applies to both the basis for the idea that vaccines are associated with autism and the basis for treating covid with horse worming compound!)

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Thanks, JD. I was a little tongue-in-cheek with this and thinking more along the lines of "Flat Earth" and "Earth Centre of the Universe" stuff. [smilebigeye]

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

Remind me Quag, in which field of medicine are you trained?

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Originally Posted by superquag

Same one as Bill Gates...

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Bill Gates has enough medical training to qualify him to provide money to allow highly qualified medical staff to use proven treatments. They make the medical decisions. He just provides the funds.

Remind me, what are you doing with your medical training?

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What did Einstein get wrong?

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Love Mr Es work. He was confused as why the normal laws of physic could be proven to not be true in Quantum Entanglement! His mate simplified it from Neutrons to a very famous cat in a letter to Mr E!

Schroders cat A wikki link - most would have heard of the cat in physics and like everyone be baffled by what is known to be true but almost impossible to understand. Impossible and possible- Understandably Baffled the best!

Speed of light is the fastest possible speed is busted by a provable aspect of quantum physics[biggrin] Baffles me to- its impossible but not[bigrolf]

"The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant that is exactly equal to 299,792,458 metres per second (approximately 300,000 kilometres per second; 186,000 miles per second; 671 million miles per hour)."


"we know that the interaction between entangled quantum particles is faster than the speed of light. In fact, Chinese physicists have measured the speed. We know that quantum entanglement can be used to realize quantum teleportation experimentally."

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Love Mr Es work. He was confused as why the normal laws of physic could be proven to not be true in Quantum Entanglement! His mate simplified it from Neutrons to a very famous cat in a letter to Mr E!

Schroders cat A wikki link - most would have heard of the cat in physics and like everyone be baffled by what is known to be true but almost impossible to understand. Impossible and possible- Understandably Baffled the best!

Speed of light is the fastest possible speed is busted by a provable aspect of quantum physics[biggrin] Baffles me to- its impossible but not[bigrolf]

"The speed of light in vacuum, commonly denoted c, is a universal physical constant that is exactly equal to 299,792,458 metres per second (approximately 300,000 kilometres per second; 186,000 miles per second; 671 million miles per hour)."


"we know that the interaction between entangled quantum particles is faster than the speed of light. In fact, Chinese physicists have measured the speed. We know that quantum entanglement can be used to realize quantum teleportation experimentally."

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Albert Einstein was a brilliant man.
On the other hand, his brother Frank, was a monster, apparently!