Covid Mk ll

**bob10** · 20th August 2021, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I think your reading too much into Tote's post, Bob. I didn't think it pompous, or parochial.

Perhaps I am, but I have a long history of TOTES posts, and I know he doesn't mind a little niggle , now & then. I suppose that's pot & kettle. But I will not let myself get a rap over the knuckles for responding to one of his niggles any more.

**Tombie** · 20th August 2021, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by BradC

Unless one of them, is your mother or daughter.

Easy to say “oh well, people are going to die so just let it loose”. Your kid is immunocompromised and can’t be vaccinated? “Sorry mate, you have to die. It’s nothing personal though, but the economy is more important”.

Agree the personal factor will always influence in some manner.

Unfortunately without an economy though - vastly greater numbers will die. Just for different reasons, and reported differently.

A wayward example is transport.
We accept that people will die on our roads, we certainly don’t like it when it hits close to home.

**vnx205** · 20th August 2021, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Tote

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If we pursue that line all the country would stop functioning in 2 weeks. No fuel, no food, no toilet paper and a population in chaos
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Regards
Tote

How could you have forgotten the most important item on the supermarket shelves?

DiscoMick · 20th August 2021, 02:23 PM

The worrying figure I saw today was there are over 700 children with Covid in NSW.

Anyway, this is too depressing. We're going camping, cause we're in Qld, so we can.

**Eevo** · 20th August 2021, 03:16 PM

in the news

The effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine against Covid-19 declines faster than that of the AstraZeneca jab, according to a new study published on Thursday.“Two doses of Pfizer-BioNTech have greater initial effectiveness against new COVID-19 infections, but this declines faster compared with two doses of Oxford-AstraZeneca,” researchers at Oxford University said.

The study, which has not been peer reviewed, is based on the results of a survey by Britain’s Office for National Statistics that carried out PCR tests from December last year to this month on randomly selected households.

**Homestar** · 20th August 2021, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

in the news

Not unexpected I wouldn’t have thought - they’ve been saying an annual booster may be required for some time. By the time we get everyone done, we can just start again!!!

**bob10** · 20th August 2021, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Homestar

Not unexpected I wouldn’t have thought - they’ve been saying an annual booster may be required for some time. By the time we get everyone done, we can just start again!!!

An annual COVID/ flu jab is on the drawing board. Moderna, I think is testing it.

**Tombie** · 20th August 2021, 03:58 PM

They better keep them seperate.

I will not take the flu jab. Has never had a good result for me each time I had it.

**bob10** · 20th August 2021, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Tote

Some interesting stats regarding population density. The whole thesis is available at https://apo.org.au/sites/default/fil...o-nid63334.pdf.
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There was an article the other day where 70% of spread in Sydney is within family groups, its easy to blame that on people visiting against regulations but I can't imagine how a family of 5 living in a 3 bedroom unit could possibly not get Delta if one family member was a nurse, a bus driver or any other essential worker and brought it home.
NSW COVID: 70 per cent of Sydney cases from household transmissions

The media focusses on the breaches and I'm sure there is some level of non compliance but I fear that the transmission in densly populated areas is probably no more controllable than is currently being achieved.

Regards,
Tote

Yes, look at India, England and parts of Europe. Population density definitely determines the outcome somewhat. That's why a sharp hard lock down can help. But not if the population has to keep moving in order to keep working.