Thread: Covid Mk ll

What has happened to the recently sprouted, 'Scourge of the Human Race', i.e. Monkey Pox (aka MPOX)?

No money in it?

Seriously, with my future existence probably being ± a score of years, I wonder how many of these things will raise their ugly heads, or should I say, be raised, during that time?
The poor, old Apocalypse Horses must be getting bloody tired.

I remember my parents' demeanour during the 'Cold War' and I reckon that's #1, so far.

(Sprouted by a fully vaccinated, Covid/Flu avoider, who has varying, healthy levels of cynicism and sceptcism about most things in general, especially anything with U.N. and media involvment.)

One family member last week. 30 plus at work this week. Staffs partner then the staff member. A heap plus at a out door event a few weeks ago including my parents whom I drove home - 4 hours direct exposure?

A person I was chatting with twice yesterday is now positive.

Any one else seeing significant case increases? Happily all are recovering well with reasonably mild symptoms.

Anyone which to run a book on this black duck getting Covid again needs to include the moderna bivalent vaccine I got in Sept 2022.

Of note on moderna bivalent vaccine and almost locally "SINGAPORE -

More than 386,000 people in the country have received a shot of a bivalent Covid-19 vaccine since it was introduced in mid-October, the Ministry of Health (MOH) said.
Meanwhile, a bivalent version of Pfizer-BioNTech’s Comirnaty Covid-19 vaccine was made available on Monday for those aged 12 and above. Previously, only Moderna’s bivalent vaccine was available here after it was rolled out on Oct 14.
Bivalent vaccines provide protection against the original Sars-CoV-2 strain of the virus, as well as the Omicron sub-variants.

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How good is the new vaccines?
" New data on the updated COVID-19 vaccines suggest the bivalent boosters are more effective against current strains of the virus compared to the original vaccines.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) last week published a report in the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report showing the first real-world evidence that the bivalent booster provides “significant additional protection against symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection.”1


The benefit of the bivalent boosters also increased with time since a person’s last monovalent COVID vaccine. Effectiveness jumped from 30% in study participants ages 18–49 who received an original vaccine two to three months ago, to 56% if they received a monovalent COVID vaccine eight or more months earlier.



The real-world findings come following updated clinical trial data from both Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna on their bivalent boosters earlier in November. Both companies’ bivalent boosters produced significantly higher immune responses, compared to the original COVID-19 vaccines, with similar safety and tolerability profiles.23"


Its all around me! How good the new ones are is a mute point if you aren't eligible of course. I suspect they might offer it to all here in OZ before winter? My guess not based on any facts I am masking up a lot more now. Suggest you think about it as well.

After dodging covid for a couple of years my 92 year old mum has caught it, I was talking to her on Saturday and she had pretty much lost her voice and although the daily visiting nurse wasn't concerned enough to call me I told her to press the button on her alerting service and get the ambos to check her out. They gave her the once over and said if you get worse give us another call, but Sunday she was feeling better and has been recovering. Interestingly the ambos don't do covid tests any more and it was Tuesday before anyone gave her a RAT which came up positive.
Its interesting how the oldies think, she had a bunch of her mates over last Monday (who now also have covid) but it wouldn't have been one of them who gave it to her, it must have been one of those nurses........


Regards,
Tote

Yes my 94yo Mum has been in a nursing home since early November - delayed going into one because of the pandemic - less than 4 weeks in the home and comes down with Covid. Into isolation, the whole home locked in their rooms. Now this is really unacceptable to be basically locked up in solidarity confinement.

The system does not allow a suitably dressed aid to take the patients out on a one at a time basic to walk the gardens out in the open - not just easier to lock them all up.

My Mum got it from another resident who had been out on a day outing and brought it back into the home. Interestingly between the time my mum would have been infected and showed symptoms I had been with her all day, and the next day had been with her going through some paperwork - so was touching and in close proximity - I did not get it.

The paperwork we were going through was to sell her home. The aged care system is designed to strip assets from the elderly - $550,000 up front for a single small bedroom with bathroom (I could buy a nice unit in the area for $300,000). As she has only a small amount of savings we have to sell her home to raise the $550,000 and in the mean time the interest cost is about $3000 a month (6.25%) when home loads were around 4.5% - this is on top of her daily fees of $66 per day.

It is almost cheaper to buy a small 2 bedroom unit and have a live in nurse.

Originally Posted by 101RRS

It is almost cheaper to buy a small 2 bedroom unit and have a live in nurse.

Hi,
A cousin did that for his incapacitated wife in her final years.
He was quite canny with $.
Cheers

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes my 94yo Mum has been in a nursing home since early November - delayed going into one because of the pandemic - less than 4 weeks in the home and comes down with Covid. Into isolation, the whole home locked in their rooms. Now this is really unacceptable to be basically locked up in solidarity confinement.

The system does not allow a suitably dressed aid to take the patients out on a one at a time basic to walk the gardens out in the open - not just easier to lock them all up.

My Mum got it from another resident who had been out on a day outing and brought it back into the home. Interestingly between the time my mum would have been infected and showed symptoms I had been with her all day, and the next day had been with her going through some paperwork - so was touching and in close proximity - I did not get it.

The paperwork we were going through was to sell her home. The aged care system is designed to strip assets from the elderly - $550,000 up front for a single small bedroom with bathroom (I could buy a nice unit in the area for $300,000). As she has only a small amount of savings we have to sell her home to raise the $550,000 and in the mean time the interest cost is about $3000 a month (6.25%) when home loads were around 4.5% - this is on top of her daily fees of $66 per day.

It is almost cheaper to buy a small 2 bedroom unit and have a live in nurse.

All I can say to that is that I feel for you. I never want to go through what I experienced in mum's last two months ever again. I know discussing politics here is verboten, but IMO aged care in this country is a disgrace. Mum was 102. A little dignity, and visits from folk who loved her, shouldn't be too much to ask. As it was, there was only me.

Good luck with it.

Originally Posted by Tins

All I can say to that is that I feel for you. I never want to go through what I experienced in mum's last two months ever again. I know discussing politics here is verboten, but IMO aged care in this country is a disgrace. Mum was 102. A little dignity, and visits from folk who loved her, shouldn't be too much to ask. As it was, there was only me.

Good luck with it.

Yep

Should never have been set up as it is

Is just another way for enterprise to make big money from those in need

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes my 94yo Mum has been in a nursing home since early November - delayed going into one because of the pandemic - less than 4 weeks in the home and comes down with Covid. Into isolation, the whole home locked in their rooms. Now this is really unacceptable to be basically locked up in solidarity confinement.

The system does not allow a suitably dressed aid to take the patients out on a one at a time basic to walk the gardens out in the open - not just easier to lock them all up.

My Mum got it from another resident who had been out on a day outing and brought it back into the home. Interestingly between the time my mum would have been infected and showed symptoms I had been with her all day, and the next day had been with her going through some paperwork - so was touching and in close proximity - I did not get it.

The paperwork we were going through was to sell her home. The aged care system is designed to strip assets from the elderly - $550,000 up front for a single small bedroom with bathroom (I could buy a nice unit in the area for $300,000). As she has only a small amount of savings we have to sell her home to raise the $550,000 and in the mean time the interest cost is about $3000 a month (6.25%) when home loads were around 4.5% - this is on top of her daily fees of $66 per day.

It is almost cheaper to buy a small 2 bedroom unit and have a live in nurse.

Off topic a bit but close- There is a Granny Flat option 4.6.4.50 Granny flats - features, rights & interests | Social Security Guide -

We did it for my mum and dad. We took the existing house and land and built a new one which is age friendly and much easier- no steps and similar.

Its legal IF we provide them a place to live for the rest of their lives which we will. IF they go into a aged care place not owning a home it is not consumed by that system you seem to be in!

It did cost me and each of my sisters a 1/4 of a brand new house we built for them. As we own it all they have to be able to trust us of course.

Back on Covid- Elective surgery is almost shut here again. Nursing homes are all in chaos with staffing again - its happily mostly controllable with fully vaccinated people and anti viral for the at risk IF they are tested!!!

Doctors cannot prescribe the anti viral's with out a confirmed positive covid test! Note again a lot of Covid positive people are NOT testing positive to multiple RAT tests!

We a busy arranging visits to the Respiratory clinics which do PCR tests but are a bit overwhelmed as most PCR testing places have closed near here!