Thread: An apology.... again...

No apology needed, in my view. If people feel offended, 99% of the time it's their problem.
Who cares, anyway? This is a forum, not a guns and knives free for all. You know, the old "Sticks and Stones".

Didn't notice?

Jonesfam

Originally Posted by Saitch

No apology needed, in my view. If people feel offended, 99% of the time it's their problem.
Who cares, anyway? This is a forum, not a guns and knives free for all. You know, the old "Sticks and Stones".

It was needed. I was pretty obnoxious. I do not apologise for the sentiments or opinions, just for the way I delivered them. But thanks.

Forums are notoriously bad places for stating strong opinions, almost to a rule it will attract diametrically opposed opinions.

Face to face is much better way to try and get to a robust result without as much distress.

And of course we are all somewhat biased by our personal experiences in life, which also makes it difficult, particularly when we can't see things from another perspective due to emotion, stress, etc..... Which EVERYONE is experiencing.

And remember... As Simon and Garfunkel sang..

" a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.."

Cue disagreement...

That's all of us from time to time.

Cheers
James

Originally Posted by shack

Forums are notoriously bad places for stating strong opinions, almost to a rule it will attract diametrically opposed opinions.

Face to face is much better way to try and get to a robust result without as much distress.

And of course we are all somewhat biased by our personal experiences in life, which also makes it difficult, particularly when we can't see things from another perspective due to emotion, stress, etc..... Which EVERYONE is experiencing.

And remember... As Simon and Garfunkel sang..

" a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest.."

Cue disagreement...

That's all of us from time to time.

Cheers
James

"For a pocket full of mumbles
Such are promises."

The Boxer. Brilliant song. Timely, as it was one of Jan's faves.

Originally Posted by shack

Forums are notoriously bad places for stating strong opinions, almost to a rule it will attract diametrically opposed opinions.


James

I didn't actually set out to state opinions, strong or otherwise. I merely suggested folk view a vid. Sure, the opinions expressed in that vid were strong, but surely someone would need to view it to know that. I had the luxury of a sneak peek.

But the spiral was downwards from there.

A lot of people are not able admit their issues/problems, the fact that you are able to do just that a big step in the right direction.

About 12 years ago a very good friend of mine passed away following a terrible camp fire accident (l am glad I was not there). His wife of 51 years had passed away several years prior to him from the dreaded rust and he went down the same path, like me he loved the outback deserts but he found himself driving along with a can in his hand at 10'clock in the morning and having more than his fair share over the course of the day. He came to the conclusion that it would not be right for his wife if he were to injure someone or himself because of his drinking, So although he did not stop altogether he seriously cut down. My mate Clarie and I did an awful lot of great outback miles together and he was and always will be a great mate.

You will of course chose which direction you choose and I dont often make these comments on the forum, but as some will and have already said we are all here to listen..

Geoff

Originally Posted by OldGuy

A lot of people are not able admit their issues/problems, the fact that you are able to do just that a big step in the right direction.

About 12 years ago a very good friend of mine passed away following a terrible camp fire accident (l am glad I was not there). His wife of 51 years had passed away several years prior to him from the dreaded rust and he went down the same path, like me he loved the outback deserts but he found himself driving along with a can in his hand at 10'clock in the morning and having more than his fair share over the course of the day. He came to the conclusion that it would not be right for his wife if he were to injure someone or himself because of his drinking, So although he did not stop altogether he seriously cut down. My mate Clarie and I did an awful lot of great outback miles together and he was and always will be a great mate.

You will of course chose which direction you choose and I dont often make these comments on the forum, but as some will and have already said we are all here to listen..

Geoff

Thank you. When I learnt that Jan was going to die I started a thread on here. ( Wish me luck, please.. ). Doing that was the beginning of learning that speaking out, and crying, is much tougher than keeping things in. I've been having counselling ever since. If I don't admit to my issues I'm only fooling myself. I've come a long way. Alcohol dependence is the big one for me. Unlike your friend, I don't drink in the daytime, I don't drink when I drive. Please, I don't judge, I am not him. What I do is start drinking at night when I am utterly alone. Sometimes that goes way too far. Substance abuse, of any kind, is a behaviour that is very difficult to beat alone. I have tried on a number of occasions to enrol in programs to deal with it recently, but it seems that a certain situation that we are no longer allowed to discuss has overloaded those that do this. Just another consequence of heads in sands thinking.