Thread: Dogs kill 4 year old girl

Here in Ontario, Canada, the provincial govt has impossed an outright ban on pit bulls. Existing dogs can remain but no new dogs can be registered in the province. There were a number of maulings, most of them where adults and children were on the sidewalk and attacked unprovoked by pit bulls. In this case you blame the dog owner for their contempt in securing their pet, and as well potentially training it as an attack dog. Can't blame people for walking down their own street and getting attacked.

In a bizarre case, a man in Edmonton was charged for assault after he broke a elderly woman's arm who was defending herself from his attacking dog. He attacked to stop her from beating on his dog.

Originally Posted by Yabbie

I have had just about enough of the ravings of people when something goes wrong.
So far everyone I have spoken to or read from has criticized the owners of the dogs for having hunting dogs in a town enviroment (sounds all too familiar for my likings) wasn't so long ago someone named Scruby was doing it to 4wd owners in the cities.

As the father of 2 boys aged 4yrs & 9mths, I hope I never have to dis-pleasure of experiencing the pain that the families involved are feeling now.

Society seems hell bent on blanket judgement of anything that causes harm to anyone. I'm sure that if more people died from splinters that would spell the end for carpenters and wood cutters.

I saw the remains of a guy who played one on one with a semi trailer ( without his car), needless to say the guy lost. The accident closed the F3 south bound for the remaineder of the day. News reported? None, besides a few traffic up dates on the radio telling you to avoid the area so as not to be inconvenienced. Yet are we hearing about how wacked the truckie was? or How the guy was experiencing depression related to a seperation?. Nope nothing just a normal day at the office why? because where not trying to prohibit any of those things.

Yet if a dog bites anyone or someone bumps into someone with there 4wd vehile regardless of its size, well blow me down if it doesn't make a headline.

My step sister was the victim of a dog attack when she was 5 (she's now 28) dog was destroyed and she received compensation to help with facial reconstruction (and if you saw my step sister before the attack, trust me She needed all the recontruction money could buy ). But seriously the first question I remember the cop saying to the old girl back the was where the **** where you!!!

People need to become more responsible about their own children and less relient on the courts to assist in compensation for their
irresponsibility’s and then maybe the world will be a safer place. You need a licence for just about everything these days yet any **** can have a kid.
Instead of chasing the **** end of the problem start at the head, lock the parents up for child neglection. Damm sure if the parents had been in charge of a boat and the kid fell off because they weren't paying attention and drowned there would be charges laid aganst them.

Can't see any difference children are a responsibility "YOURS". Your kids, Your responsible!!!. Don't want to be held accoutable for your inactions watch your friggin kids or don't have them.

Sure accidents will inevitably happen thats why they are called accidents. But if the powers that be can prove the parents didn't do everything humanly possible to prevent it why blame someone else.

Soap box anyone!!

Only that I totaly agree!

Originally Posted by Yabbie

1. The dogs owners weren't home.
2. The child has made it's way through 2 fences to access the dogs.
3. Had been warned not to go near the dogs as they were dangerous.

Question: Just how much protection do you have to provide the general public from you dog/s before you are allowed to use your dog as a deterant. Obviously 2 fences is more then most.

Not only that, according to ACA the dogs the dogs were actually locked in their cages and were also tied up - two of the dogs were able to slip their leads when the cage doors were opened by the girl.

So - first obstacle was for a 4yo to walk 6 houses down a road unaccompanied.

2nd obstacle was to climb a colour bond driveway gate

3rd obstacle was to get through a 6' wire fence

4th obstacle was to open the cages

5th obstacle was for the dogs to get off their leads


While I do not agree that these dogs should have been kept in town, I think it is unfair to blame the owner or dogs.

I also don't think that it right that the dogs should be put down but really I don't think there is another option - the risk is too great.

The whole saga is an absolute waste all round - note the stereo type - single mum in a lower socio-economic group not looking after the kids - crops up time and time again. I know we shouldn't talk about stereotypes but they are such for a reason - even if we don't like it.

Gazzz

having gone thru this sort of thing quite recently, i can directly relate to this situation.
when an 8 yr old kid gets into our backyard over a brick wall that i had told him a week previously, not to climb and not to go near the dogs, then after a school holiday long regime of tormenting the dogs, possible physical cruelty (pulling tails and kicking), he then gets bitten and the feet and ankles by our most trusted dog, who do you blame?
he told lies to his parents and the ranger about what had happened and his parents wanted the dog put down.
luckily, the kids next door, who witnessed the whole thing, told the ranger that this little mongrel was lying an set the record straight.
at the end of the day, the dog was behaving within reasonable manner on it's own property and the kid was tresspassing.
little turd!

I think that some are missing the point here.

A thousand years ago we lived (and still do) with bears,wolves, lions,tigers and crocodiles,snakes, spiders and scorpions...

Now added to the equation of survival are cars and drugs..

Look after your children

we had hunting dogs in new zealand up until i was 7 or 8, we had 5 all caged and kennelled seperate from each other, ever since i can remember my sister and i were not allowed anywhere near the caged area and if we did get too close to the dogs would start barking & carrying on letting the old man know we were close and we'd get a belting, we made the "mistake" of making a pet out of one of the dogs, we'd ride her, pull on her tail,ears, etc..., even the neighbours kid could play with her in this manner,& she didn't mind & she was still a good hunting dog with the pack, her downfall was she was too protective. one afternoon we were playing out in the front yard when the neighbour started belted his kid in they're front yard, quick as a flash she was over the waist high fence & bit the neighbour a few times (nothing like her bringdown hunting style bite/grab/maul) to get him to back off, which he did, she then stood guard next to the neighbours kid & wouldn't leave 'til my old man got her. unfortunately she had drawn blood & the old man put her down even though the neighbour didn't want that. i have a ten year old bull terrier & she'll play with anyone & everything, she's been socialized since she was a pup, but hasn't really had kids around her, when there are kids around i supervise her at all times as she tries to sometimes be dominate over them, but strangely this only happens at our house or friends of mine house's she's known before they had kids, i only really supervise her because some kids can be little ****s.

i feel sorry for the parents lost but they are responsible at the end of the day.

People seem to jump up and down weather its at the parents or the dog owner.You cant keep an eye out 24 hrs a day on either part.No matter witch way you look at it there is faults on both sides.We all should take reasponsability for our own short comings.If you live in the city should you be without a 4wd.if you live in town should you not hunt the way you want to(weather we agree or not it is an individuals decision on what our hobbies are).As dog owners we have a responsibility to secure our dogs and a parent we have a responsibility to secure and watch our childeren.
Accidents will always happen dont condem someone for making a mistake(no matter how big)because on day you might make the same mistake.
It only takes a moment to get distracted