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    There is a worldwide shortage of cooking oil looming up with Ukraine sunflower crop failing, Canada has had a bad season, Indonesia has stopped exporting palm oil, and on and on it goes. They're already rationing cooking oil in the UK. The prices will not go down for a while.
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    I wonder how a vehicle would run on hemp oil......

    I also wonder why such a beneficial crop to grow in this country is basically illegal.

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    I wonder how a vehicle would run on hemp oil......

    I also wonder why such a beneficial crop to grow in this country is basically illegal.
    Hemp plants are legal as long as they do not have the constituent oil of Marijuana .

    I remember many years ago NSW Ag conducted a trial in Western NSW as Hemp is a great source of fibre for bags etc.

    After a few weeks one of the triallers came along to find truckloads missing.

    Comment was that the thieves would have to smoke the whole truckload to get high.

    AFAIK not economic in OZ. You would know why if you go through Northern India where perhaps millions of tonnes are grown.

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    I wonder how much Jet 1A is to buy as a Disco will run well on that.

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    I believe it's quite expensive , that's why I wonder why an alternative fuel for jet turbines hasn't been sourced.

    I saw somewhere the cost of fuel at current prices for the new A350's 20hr flight.....it was frightening.

    ....there must be a veggie alternative out there waiting for Twiggy to see its value....

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I believe it's quite expensive , that's why I wonder why an alternative fuel for jet turbines hasn't been sourced.

    I saw somewhere the cost of fuel at current prices for the new A350's 20hr flight.....it was frightening.

    ....there must be a veggie alternative out there waiting for Twiggy to see its value....
    The issue isn't its viability, it's getting the entire aircraft fuel systems and rotating machines tested and approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I believe it's quite expensive , that's why I wonder why an alternative fuel for jet turbines hasn't been sourced.

    I saw somewhere the cost of fuel at current prices for the new A350's 20hr flight.....it was frightening.

    ....there must be a veggie alternative out there waiting for Twiggy to see its value....
    There are a couple of companies trialing bio fuels for the aviation industry, some are alcohol based from bio mass and I remember reading about algae based oil.

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    watching 4 corners and the hopeful road to everything electric is not going to be cheap nor actually "green"

    Australia has the opportunity to lead the world in sourcing minerals for the necessary componentry for future electrical goods....

    most of this is not going to happen effectively for some years , though some , vis cobalt in Broken Hill and Lithium in King Island can be sourced fairly soon from existing facilities.

    in the mean time clean fuel is going to be necessary for Australia's long range vehicle fleet for quite a few years yet.

    there are no existing long term fixes available.

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    Just a thought on using grain or vegetable stock to produce Ethanol.

    One of the problems is that where food is also a use of the agricultural product , the demand will always be at a higher price than for input to ethanol production.

    That is a reason that bio fuel production started with fanfare in Australia then petered out as it was based on canola.

    Seeing it is expected that grain prices will rise greatly from the lack of Ukraine production, there will be input price increases for ethanol also.

    In NSW ethanol is solely a byproduct of Manildra's starch plant at Bomaderry, but this volume is limited to what is produced as a byproduct with the main aim to reduce the amount of bio active effluent produced by the factory and a particular dislike of the EPA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    I believe it's quite expensive , that's why I wonder why an alternative fuel for jet turbines hasn't been sourced.

    I saw somewhere the cost of fuel at current prices for the new A350's 20hr flight.....it was frightening.

    ....there must be a veggie alternative out there waiting for Twiggy to see its value....
    If jets started to use veggie oil we wouldn't be able to afford to fry our chips because demand will outstrip supply very fast and that would lead to massive price increases for plant based oils.

    I can see the value in using recycled oils But burning perfectly good food just to run a jet or car makes little sense to me.
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