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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol
    A question????

    With the fitting of traction aids as standard to many new vehicles is the the issue of articulation becoming less relevant to the capability if modern vehicles. An example is an airsuspended D3 - it does have reasonable articulation for an independent suspension vehicle but nevertheless is not great but because of its traction aids is a mightly capable vehicle. How many of you have seen pictures of a D3, one wheel in the air but still plugging away quite happily.

    Interested in your thoughts after all, one of the reasons Landrover gave for not fitting LSDs to discos when they were fitted to most jap 4wds was that they did not need it because of their soft long travel suspension.

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    I have two concerns with electronic traction aids,

    1: How do you get back out of where you are if they fail?
    2: What is to stop a novice from driving into a situation where the car falls over due to wheels being massively in the air?

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    Captain Rightfoot, where are your pics from http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread.php't=23234&highlight=mini

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    I would think that any of those limitations would apply to any 4x4 accessory, like diff locks, or a GPS or even a map and are not limited to electronic traction aids.

    People who push their vehicles to the limit are going to do it no matter what options it's got. Exceeding the vehicles capabilities is relative to the vehicle and the driver. Long travel coil springs were always said to be unstable, how many knuckle heads take Rav4's and get them stuck, plenty. just having a extra set of driving wheels can put you into the Exceeding capabilities club.

    Cars that travel over 30k an hour are all POTENTIALLY dangerous. Singling out one "Option" as a potential cause of driver injury is good reason for us all to park up our trucks and let them fence off the tracks.

    Just my opinion.

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    flex

    couple of poser pics of my old girl,
    1986 defender 90, 2" - 2 1/2" lift (different shocks though), 35's, etc[ATTACH]flex scorpion bar 017.jpg[/ATTACH]
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    I liked Discodans pix, amazing what you can do to a falcon wagon!
    If it had a LSD in it, would probably go anywhere the Land Rover could.....

















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    Here are some pics of Bill Larman's amazing Series IIa - recently posted on LR4X4.
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    Here are some pics of my old truck





    And my rothers one, which did not have enough axel travel





    95 300 Tdi Defender 90
    99 300 Tdi Defender 110
    92 Discovery 200tdi
    50 Series 1 80
    50 Series 1 80


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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon
    I have two concerns with electronic traction aids,

    1: How do you get back out of where you are if they fail?
    2: What is to stop a novice from driving into a situation where the car falls over due to wheels being massively in the air?
    Don't we all but it's exactly the same concerns as finding some plonker, with too much money, throwing lots of toys at a cruiser or a Defender?

    It all comes down to experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon
    I have two concerns with electronic traction aids,

    1: How do you get back out of where you are if they fail?
    2: What is to stop a novice from driving into a situation where the car falls over due to wheels being massively in the air?
    Oh belive me i have seen many cheque book off roaders who have done that
    I drive hard , very hard as mark will agree with , but pride myself on the fact that i have never put a truck on its roof. Come bloody close though.
    Last time was on a hill and the truck was sitting there with the back wheel with 6 foot + of air under it. Sat there with the foot on the brake and holding the steering wheels as a rut was trying to turn the wheels. If it had turned the wheels i would have rolled down a very steep hill. My Co driver mark had to reach in the cab and put the lockers on and put the truck in revers for me as i did not want to let go of the steering wheel as it would have turned if i only i had one hand on the Wheel. Then once in gear i had to keep my foot on the brake and the other foot on the clutch and press the loud pedal with my heal of my right foot. Tricky but got out of it.. That was one of those cases where we both looked at each other at the end and went f*** that was close
    95 300 Tdi Defender 90
    99 300 Tdi Defender 110
    92 Discovery 200tdi
    50 Series 1 80
    50 Series 1 80


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    Some pics from Cityview. Not the best angle, but you get the idea.

    Here's some of the 'home made' suspension ramp when I had my 31's on and no body lift. Not high enough though, almost drove over the edge and still had the rear wheel on the ground







    Trav

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