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    Yes, when I looked into it it was a grey area.
    If I keep current system on current meter I get the large FIT.

    I tested if we could go 3 phase, have another meter added and isolate house from current phase.

    It was “potentially” possible.

    Our other thinking is keep current system as feed-in.
    Fit another full system including storage to house and then isolate house from grid totally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    the world was warned and you called these people "greenies" with a sneer on your face.

    now you are all whingeing and complaining , expecting someone else to be your saviour.....one bloke supposedly tried that and failed.
    Except the 20 -25% electricity price rises that we are facing are apparently caused by a war on the other side of the world that is driving gas prices up. Seems as clear as how petrol prices are set to me and has more to do with international profit taking and less to do with any environmental crisis.

    Having said that I'm considering the "how to put solar panels on a heritage listed address" problem. They would go on the modern shed we have at the back of the house so hopefully not too much of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    the world was warned and you called these people "greenies" with a sneer on your face.

    now you are all whingeing and complaining , expecting someone else to be your saviour.....one bloke supposedly tried that and failed.
    Blokes on clouds seem to only be useful retrospectively.

    Greenies have no long term useful policies and would have the global population living back in caves in no time.

    Currently this global push for renewables, is driving economic growth and having no benefit to the environment as all that is happening is lower emissions ratios and ever higher production rates…

    The global greed however is equally strong and driving record profits at the detriment of the people. Utilities are basics, shouldn’t be for profit, they should be for the people.

    Hang on, they were.. until an inept government had to sell them to pay off huge debts they accrued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    Except the 20 -25% electricity price rises that we are facing are apparently caused by a war on the other side of the world that is driving gas prices up. Seems as clear as how petrol prices are set to me and has more to do with international profit taking and less to do with any environmental crisis.

    Having said that I'm considering the "how to put solar panels on a heritage listed address" problem. They would go on the modern shed we have at the back of the house so hopefully not too much of an issue.

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    No doubt you have double checked that but yonks ago (in SA)when we first looked into SOLAR we wanted the panels on our big shed roof about 80' from the house & Consumer Switch Board.
    Power was already at the shed.


    "NO No No you can't do that" "they"said loudly. Things change with this noo fangled electrickery stuff it seemed & so it did. Not long after, I started to see panels on even old sheds everywhere here. We eventually were able to locate them on the house proper but not as many panels as we would have liked if they could have been placed on the shed, but it suffices.

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    SWMBO has school holidays coming up next week, she's going to do the rounds to see what Council say and maybe talk to a couple of installers. The shed has power on and is about 25m from the back of the house. Approval to build the shed in the first place wasn't too bad so hopefully it wont be a problem with the panels. The house would be a nightmare to put panels on though with a 30 degree pitched roof .

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    We had two solar systems on our house, the 1st a 1.6Kwwas installed 2010 the 2nd a 3Kw in 2012. The 1st had had two new inverters installed& 2nd was on its 2nd inverter as well. the inverter on the 1st system failed again earlier this year & I could not get any one to install a new inverter due to the fact they all said they would have to sign off on all work done by previous installers & none were prepared to do that & would only replace the whole system. With ducted A/C a pool with a solar heater that had to run during the day & a Heat Pump hot water system that could not be run at night & every time we turned on the hot water tap it started & ran for about 1/2hr we were using all the power we were making from the sun so no feed into the grid. After talking with a few people, we opted to remove booth systems & replace them with a 13.3Kw system. The plan was the 3Kw system was to be installed on our daughter's house but then we found we could not find anyone that would do this work, so we now have a full 3 Kw system here that has a inverter that is less than a year old & the panels off the 1.6Kw. Talking with the guys who installed the new system, I should be able to sell the 3Kw system to a farmer to install on a shed feeding into batteries to power the shed. With the 1.6Kw I could only find very expensive new inverters or reconditioned ones that only had a 3-month warranty.
    The 13.3 Kw system shows that we are using half the power we are making & half is being fed into the grid.
    We received a letter from our provider the other day showing the new increased chargers for electricity & solar meter charges but no increase in what they are paying for what we feed, I feel that if they are selling the power, we make at an increase profit there should be an increase in what they are buying it off us.
    Well that's my rant for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    No doubt you have double checked that but yonks ago (in SA)when we first looked into SOLAR we wanted the panels on our big shed roof about 80' from the house & Consumer Switch Board.
    Power was already at the shed.


    "NO No No you can't do that" "they"said loudly. Things change with this noo fangled electrickery stuff it seemed & so it did. Not long after, I started to see panels on even old sheds everywhere here. We eventually were able to locate them on the house proper but not as many panels as we would have liked if they could have been placed on the shed, but it suffices.
    Our system was early in the solar scheme and planned for our North facing shed.

    They had no issues at all with it.

    Sounds like some engineer being a tosser in your case!

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    When our solar system was installed 25 years ago, there was a proposal, came in after ours, that the government subsidy (can't remember whether it was state or federal) would only be available if the panels were installed on the house they were supplying. While I don't think this still applies, I suspect this may be where the idea came from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Our system was early in the solar scheme and planned for our North facing shed.

    They had no issues at all with it.

    Sounds like some engineer being a tosser in your case!
    Thought as much, as I seem to attract the tossers. (Not you Mike, SAPN)

    First was the SALES GUY then SAPN so went with the next one that made sense.


    JD. probably right I think there was quite a lot of horse **** back then being spouted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Thought as much, as I seem to attract the tossers. (Not you Mike, SAPN)

    First was the SALES GUY then SAPN so went with the next one that made sense.


    JD. probably right I think there was quite a lot of horse **** back then being spouted.
    And make sure if you can have 10kw per phase (or whatever your max allowable is) you/your installer applied for it not the size of your system if it is smaller (much easier to expand to your max approved later).

    And if you are installing a used system you don't need a CEC accredited anybody, just the installing sparky to sign off that it is electrically safe and done to the networks current solar installation requirements.

    CEC accreditation is only for claiming government subsidies.

    The subsidies are for panels not inverters, CEC limits how much you can oversize your array and still be eligible for STCertificates.

    If you build a system with used parts you can oversize the array far more and get more usable output early morning and late arvo.

    There is STILL a lot of horse **** being spouted, by sales people AND independant sparky/installers.

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