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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    They are the biggest seller in Aus by a country mile,over double their nearest competitor,so the more that are sold,the bigger number can have issues.

    Over 8.7M vehicles world wide,next is 5.5M,2021.

    There is a class action being started for Colorados,panels cracking,DPF issues,etc,etc.Over 90,000 vehicles involved,a huge percentage of the number actually sold.

    Ford TDV6 engines in D3/4/5,RRS,should have been a class action as well,but actual numbers are low,although the % of failures of vehicles sold is high,and the manufacturer continued to sell them for decades, knowing there was a problem.
    I thought I had read it was Isuzu that had the class action potentially getting going for 90k vehicles for cracks and turbos.

    I take your point re number of sales and sure LR should be ashamed of their engine failures but Toyota are not the reliability last word they were decades ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    I am pretty certain that those unfortunate TDV6 owners with a snapped crankshaft would gladly swap that problem for a bit of paint peel instead
    But not endless DPF problems perhaps? Let's not make light of conpanies like Toyota's approach to 'customer care' to consumers genuine ownership problems. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    But not endless DPF problems perhaps? Let's not make light of conpanies like Toyota's approach to 'customer care' to consumers genuine ownership problems. Cheers
    NO vehicle or manufacturer is 100% perfect and the customer service isn't 100% perfect for any maker either.
    However Toyota's reliability, parts avilabilty and "Customer Care" are streets ahead of many other vehicle makers (Including JLR).

    4WD's are getting more complex every year and with each new inovation and safety/enviromental modifcation adds yet another layer of possible defects.
    NO new 4WD is as reliable and robust as their predecessors were many decades ago and the percentage of 4WD's on our roads has increased at a staggering rate since the 80'S and 90's.
    IF Toyota and Nissan vehicles were as crap as some want to make them out to be explain why their are so many of them on our roads and their sales figures keep on going up.
    The resale value of a Toyota 4WD is also much better than most of its competitors, Why is this so?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    NO vehicle or manufacturer is 100% perfect and the customer service isn't 100% perfect for any maker either.
    However Toyota's reliability, parts avilabilty and "Customer Care" are streets ahead of many other vehicle makers (Including JLR).

    4WD's are getting more complex every year and with each new inovation and safety/enviromental modifcation adds yet another layer of possible defects.
    NO new 4WD is as reliable and robust as their predecessors were many decades ago and the percentage of 4WD's on our roads has increased at a staggering rate since the 80'S and 90's.
    IF Toyota and Nissan vehicles were as crap as some want to make them out to be explain why their are so many of them on our roads and their sales figures keep on going up.
    The resale value of a Toyota 4WD is also much better than most of its competitors, Why is this so?
    Thanks for that. No new info there. My comments remain. Toyota is not a company I would do business with. Many obliviously disagree and I am good with that. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    But not endless DPF problems perhaps? Let's not make light of conpanies like Toyota's approach to 'customer care' to consumers genuine ownership problems. Cheers
    If you listen to Cadogen,he has a vid with a bit about LR's customer care efforts

    As for Toyota,part of the class action to do with customer care was thrown out.The judge actually said the manufacturer did its utmost to help the customers.

    The second part was the drop in resale value,there is no fine against the company.Well there is in a sort of around about way,if the appeal fails.

    Until the appeal is heard no one will get a cent,so who knows what is going to happen,and when,it could drag on for years.I agree,they should get what they deserve,the company and the customers.Whether its Ford,Toyota,Land Rover,or who ever.Mazda was caught out recently as well.

    And not all vehicles built during those years had the issue,so its probably no where near the number that was reported in the media,and other click bait sites.

    Unlike Ford Aust a few years ago,they had to give around 3000 customers new vehicles,and the fine of around $10M,for,as the judge said "unconscionable conduct"

    Ford dont sell many vehicles,Ranger is their flagship,without it,they wouldnt be here.So taking into the account the number of vehicles sold,they were in a lot more trouble than Tojo.

    And as i said on here recently,Ford are still up to their tricks,we recently bought a Ranger with supposedly Heavy Duty suspension,which we found out wasnt HD at all.
    We didnt really complain to the dealership,just asked what the definition of HD was,and they were very quick to offer to give us the money back,for the suspension,or send the vehicle to the local spring guy to have it fitted with HD suspension.
    We had the vehicle already sorted by then,as it couldnt be driven at night as it was sitting down at the rear,and the headlights blinded other drivers.
    The spring guy we used just laughed and said he has done lots of them,but didnt want to get involved with the manufacturer,but said they are just ripping off unsuspecting buyers.The standard set of leaves are exactly the same as their so called HD set,no difference at all,and the same number of leaves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post

    At least the EV shouldn’t have any injector or DPF issues
    Dunno about that. This woman seems to be having some issues with getting the petrol nozzle at her local garage to fit into her Tesla ...............

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    If you listen to Cadogen,he has a vid with a bit about LR's customer care efforts

    As for Toyota,part of the class action to do with customer care was thrown out.The judge actually said the manufacturer did its utmost to help the customers.

    The second part was the drop in resale value,there is no fine against the company.Well there is in a sort of around about way,if the appeal fails.

    Until the appeal is heard no one will get a cent,so who knows what is going to happen,and when,it could drag on for years.I agree,they should get what they deserve,the company and the customers.Whether its Ford,Toyota,Land Rover,or who ever.Mazda was caught out recently as well.

    And not all vehicles built during those years had the issue,so its probably no where near the number that was reported in the media,and other click bait sites.

    Unlike Ford Aust a few years ago,they had to give around 3000 customers new vehicles,and the fine of around $10M,for,as the judge said "unconscionable conduct"

    Ford dont sell many vehicles,Ranger is their flagship,without it,they wouldnt be here.So taking into the account the number of vehicles sold,they were in a lot more trouble than Tojo.

    And as i said on here recently,Ford are still up to their tricks,we recently bought a Ranger with supposedly Heavy Duty suspension,which we found out wasnt HD at all.
    We didnt really complain to the dealership,just asked what the definition of HD was,and they were very quick to offer to give us the money back,for the suspension,or send the vehicle to the local spring guy to have it fitted with HD suspension.
    We had the vehicle already sorted by then,as it couldnt be driven at night as it was sitting down at the rear,and the headlights blinded other drivers.
    The spring guy we used just laughed and said he has done lots of them,but didnt want to get involved with the manufacturer,but said they are just ripping off unsuspecting buyers.The standard set of leaves are exactly the same as their so called HD set,no difference at all,and the same number of leaves.
    He does do some good ones about LR but also about Toyota and Ford. Classic. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    I am pretty certain that those unfortunate TDV6 owners with a snapped crankshaft would gladly swap that problem for a bit of paint peel instead
    It's not just a bit of paint flecks coming off, it can come off in sheets as it seems they used the incorrect primer coat, so the colour coat hasn't bonded to the primer, and here is a little known fact primer offers very little protection if any against rust, so then the car corrodes.

    I'm surprised the colour exposed is grey, not a boring bland beige which I think is the colour best suited to most Toyotas.
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