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    Sad murders

    Vale Constable Rachel McCrow, 29, and Constable Matthew Arnold, 26.

    Not forgetting the neighbor shot dead as well-

    Only bright part was "three offenders were fatally shot by specialist officers," stopping more deaths I assume.

    What a horrible selfish waste at so many levels. life line is 131114 if this caused you issues.


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    Details are understandably sketchy, but if this was suicide by cop ( Police Union described it as an ambush ) then I wish to god those responsible had just done themselves in and not involved others.

    As I say, sketchy, so way too soon to tell. It just burns me up. In 1988 I was living in South Yarra, just around the corner from Walsh Street. This doesn't make me important in any way, I just mention it because those murders are imprinted on Melburnians' psyche. These ones in Qld will be remembered.
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    One of the three offenders, two males and a female, was a teacher.
    Such senseless behaviour. A lone lunatic is tragic, three together suggests something a bit more sinister.
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    It’s bloody tragic that six people lost their lives in this way. Seems to me that the QPOL members were not aware of the potential danger they were in. Considering all the resources Police have these days, seems quite odd. NSW Police had requested QPOL to check this place out….surely they had intel it might be dangerous. On the flip side, what situation makes it reasonable to have a shootout with police? Seems to me there is a lot more to this story than reaches the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    One of the three offenders, two males and a female, was a teacher.
    Such senseless behavior. A lone lunatic is tragic, three together suggests something a bit more sinister.
    Down the rabbit warren thread is usually funny Ian. Fully agree 3 now dead murderers in camouflage clothing and weapons ambushing police is sinister, evil and clearly pointless in terms of the dead idiots. Heart breaks think of all the families hurt by this. Including the dead murderers families. Drugs or conspiracy theories - no matter- Selfish and Stupid action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellonwheels View Post
    It’s bloody tragic that six people lost their lives in this way. Seems to me that the QPOL members were not aware of the potential danger they were in. Considering all the resources Police have these days, seems quite odd. NSW Police had requested QPOL to check this place out….surely they had intel it might be dangerous. On the flip side, what situation makes it reasonable to have a shootout with police? Seems to me there is a lot more to this story than reaches the news.
    The relative isolation of the property might have had some mitigating effects twenty years ago, but it shouldn't have today, given the resources you mentioned. As you also say, we aren't in possession of many of the facts and so we shouldn't take this on face value.

    The best we can hope for is that lessons are learned so events like these become fewer. Condolences to the families of ALL involved.

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    Just shocking!
    I am very much against the Death Penalty but, I am kind of glad these 3 won't get their day in court.
    Police & all first responders have a very tough job.
    They should get to go home.
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    Nothing more than a senseless tragedy,which words cannot describe.

    They are saying the three killed had no chance and the other two Police that survived were very very lucky.

    One good thing,i suppose,is the perpetrators got what they deserved,and won’t be spending time in an Airconditioned jail cell wasting oxygen and other resources.

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    The teacher was actually a school principal, not the sort of person who is generally considered loopy. I wonder if he was the same one involved with the mysterious kidnapping caper near Byron, recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellonwheels View Post
    It’s bloody tragic that six people lost their lives in this way. Seems to me that the QPOL members were not aware of the potential danger they were in. Considering all the resources Police have these days, seems quite odd. NSW Police had requested QPOL to check this place out….surely they had intel it might be dangerous. On the flip side, what situation makes it reasonable to have a shootout with police? Seems to me there is a lot more to this story than reaches the news.
    As an x member of the Q Pol. Unless there has been and incident or call to service at an address then there is no information. Information may be obtained as to if a person at the address has a firearms licence. But you have to know who lives there. Unfortunately some one has to do something to be flagged. An inquiry into an adult missing person in my time was just that an inquiry.

    Also unless it has changed there is no inter agency exchange of information unless via a warrant. So no information from Ergon, Centre link ,et. I'm sure it will all come out in the coronial. Just passing on what i recall. Baz

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