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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    It ain’t got hot yet.


    According to the info gained from places like the Ice Drill in Greenland and the Peat Bog research in Britain, the mean average temperature for the globe for the last 10,000 years, is nearly 2.5 degrees hotter then what it is now.

    Also note, it was hotter when the Romans ruled the known world, and none of the seas or oceans were any different ( higher ) then they are now.


    Be interesting to see how the loony lefties and Greenies can get around this FACTUAL info.
    I've tried to obtain citations for your posts, here Public Email (utah.gov) and here Confusing Greenland warming vs global warming (skepticalscience.com)

    Regarding your point about ocean levels, as I understand it, the oceans are absorbing a lot of the global warming heat now, much like a pot of water on a stove absorbs heat with no change in state and little change in volume until it boils. Actually, water is densest at 4C not 0C and only changes 4% from cold to boiling. Ocean Warming | Vital Signs – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet (nasa.gov) The ocean heat then drives more intense cyclones.

    The point about Roman sea levels might also be explained by solar activity and local temperatures versus global temps, like El Nino means the opposite in temps and rainfall for Australia versus South America, which is reversed in La Nina conditions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    My dispute is with the statement, highlighted in red.
    Is that an inflammatory statement Not my work so not at all stressed Sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    I wonder if that has anything to do with them knowing how to make roads that actually last more than one winter then?
    Or concrete that last thousands of years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    I wonder if that has anything to do with them knowing how to make roads that actually last more than one winter then?


    Or are they scoffing more Pizzas? A million or two ovens going like the clappers on a weekend must add one hell of a lot of heat to the sky.



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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Is that an inflammatory statement Not my work so not at all stressed Sir
    Not my work
    Are you related to that nincompoop Ex PM.

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    20 degrees above normal in South Americas . Thats a bit odd.


    "Climatologist and weather historian Maximiliano Herrera went so far as to call it one of the most "extreme weather events the world has ever seen"."For its duration, area, and intensity, it's probably the worst winter heatwave in the Southern Hemisphere," he said.
    He said temperatures in South America earlier this week had even rivalled the prolonged heat experienced in Europe during July, despite being the middle of winter.
    "South America is living one of the most extreme events the world has ever seen, unbelievable temperatures up to 38.9C in the Chilean Andine areas in mid-winter," Mr Herrera wrote on social media.
    "[This is] much more than what southern Europe just had in mid-summer at the same elevation.""

    Chile is about the same as Melbourne today? Weather for Santiago, Chile (timeanddate.com)

    Records being set in Winter "Many parts of Argentina also reached temperatures of 30C to 35C, and Brazil saw widespread temperatures above 35C and 38C on both Tuesday and Wednesday, according to data from their respective meteorological agencies.
    Buenos Aires set a daily record for the start of August with its high of 30.1C — more than 5 degrees above the previous daily record, and 12C warmer than its August average, according to a spokesperson for Argentina's National Meteorological Service."

    Looking at Latitude -34.603722 "'Flabbergasted' by temperatures

    University of New South Wales climate scientist Sarah Perkins-Kirkpatrick said that, even as a climate scientist who specialised in heat extremes, the temperature observations were hard to believe.
    "I'm flabbergasted by these temperatures," Dr Perkins-Kirkpatrick said.
    She said if those temperatures were to occur in New South Wales, which sits at a similar latitude, it would be "extraordinary"."

    Avg for july in Sydney was " Sydney’s 23.5C was enough to have elevated July’s average maximum above the previous record of 19.89C set in 2018, Ben Domensino, a senior Weatherzone meteorologist said. Data at Observatory Hill goes back to 1858."


    I am still freezing my butt off -

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    20 degrees above normal in South Americas . Thats a bit odd.


    "Climatologist and weather historian Maximiliano Herrera went so far as to call it one of the most "extreme weather events the world has ever seen"."For its duration, area, and intensity, it's probably the worst winter heatwave in the Southern Hemisphere," he said.
    He said temperatures in South America earlier this week had even rivalled the prolonged heat experienced in Europe during July, despite being the middle of winter.
    "South America is living one of the most extreme events the world has ever seen, unbelievable temperatures up to 38.9C in the Chilean Andine areas in mid-winter," Mr Herrera wrote on social media.
    "[This is] much more than what southern Europe just had in mid-summer at the same elevation.""

    Chile is about the same as Melbourne today? Weather for Santiago, Chile (timeanddate.com)

    Records being set in Winter "Many parts of Argentina also reached temperatures of 30C to 35C, and Brazil saw widespread temperatures above 35C and 38C on both Tuesday and Wednesday, according to data from their respective meteorological agencies.
    Buenos Aires set a daily record for the start of August with its high of 30.1C — more than 5 degrees above the previous daily record, and 12C warmer than its August average, according to a spokesperson for Argentina's National Meteorological Service."

    Looking at Latitude -34.603722 "'Flabbergasted' by temperatures

    University of New South Wales climate scientist Sarah Perkins-Kirkpatrick said that, even as a climate scientist who specialised in heat extremes, the temperature observations were hard to believe.
    "I'm flabbergasted by these temperatures," Dr Perkins-Kirkpatrick said.
    She said if those temperatures were to occur in New South Wales, which sits at a similar latitude, it would be "extraordinary"."

    Avg for july in Sydney was " Sydney’s 23.5C was enough to have elevated July’s average maximum above the previous record of 19.89C set in 2018, Ben Domensino, a senior Weatherzone meteorologist said. Data at Observatory Hill goes back to 1858."


    I am still freezing my butt off -
    You are? Psssssssstt, I could arrange for a good deal on return Air Tickets to South America. Mastercard accepted. Just let me have your Bank Details asap.

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    Catastrophic- maybe - maybe not

    A bit warm? Hot is ok as a word when its heading to or above 40. Its a mere 33 here now as a sun shower just dropped by Melb forecast was up to 38. Moving on from how hot is too hot. It is also very windy so risk are real of course.

    Try the chat about catastrophic!

    "Authorities defend 'catastrophic' rating

    James Todd from Victoria's State Control Centre urged people in the Wimmera to take heed of the warnings.
    "We know if fire was to start today under these strong northerly winds and later with this south-westerly change coming through … grassfires would be fast-moving," Mr Todd said.
    He acknowledged the use of the word "catastrophic" could be seen as an overreach by authorities but stressed if fire took hold, there was a high risk of lives being lost.
    "The wording needs to resonate enough that people pay attention to it," Mr Todd said.
    "I also appreciate that in some circumstances that might feel like a bit of an over-description of the risk."

    Risk rating is interesting. Not wishing catastrophe on anyone!!! Have a fire plan if in high risk areas! It might be a catastrophe to skip planning for or assessing risk.


    https://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    A bit warm? Hot is ok as a word when its heading to or above 40. Its a mere 33 here now as a sun shower just dropped by Melb forecast was up to 38. Moving on from how hot is too hot. It is also very windy so risk are real of course.

    Try the chat about catastrophic!

    "Authorities defend 'catastrophic' rating

    James Todd from Victoria's State Control Centre urged people in the Wimmera to take heed of the warnings.
    "We know if fire was to start today under these strong northerly winds and later with this south-westerly change coming through … grassfires would be fast-moving," Mr Todd said.
    He acknowledged the use of the word "catastrophic" could be seen as an overreach by authorities but stressed if fire took hold, there was a high risk of lives being lost.
    "The wording needs to resonate enough that people pay attention to it," Mr Todd said.
    "I also appreciate that in some circumstances that might feel like a bit of an over-description of the risk."

    Risk rating is interesting. Not wishing catastrophe on anyone!!! Have a fire plan if in high risk areas! It might be a catastrophe to skip planning for or assessing risk.


    https://emergency.vic.gov.au/respond/


    Another Catsarstrophe. They really love that word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    A bit warm? Hot is ok as a word when its heading to or above 40. Its a mere 33 here now as a sun shower just dropped by Melb forecast was up to 38. Moving on from how hot is too hot. It is also very windy so risk are real of course.
    Only 12° less than Black Saturday, 15 years ago. It's a TFB up here, which with the wind is fair enough, CFA love to be noticed**, but hardly serious cause for alarm.






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