Thread: General chat Economics " induced demand"

You could have a 20 lane freeway but it will always bottleneck down to 2-3 lanes so if there is no where for the traffic to go, there is no increased flow.

It's getting traffic ON & OFF a freeway that causes a lot of the delays.
Imposing a reduced speed limit often increases the traffic flow.

Colin

Getting on always seems to be an issue,as many,if not most have no idea how to merge into flowing traffic.

Getting off is reasonably easy,but the issue around here is the exit lanes are not long enough so the traffic banks up onto the motorway,which is not only dangerous but causes congestion.

[Here in Melbourne East we are getting a Ring Road that is ending up on the directish path to the City near Bulleen, The RING part of that seem to be a bit lost

You can blame John Cain and the Labor Party for that stupidity. The Ring Road was supposed to go through the back of Greensborough, Eltham and Warrandyte to join East link at Ringwood, which then takes you to Frankston. But Cain with green support sold off the land in Eltham. we were told the road would upset local wildlife. The Govt still owns some of the land out the back of Eltham. It was the same with the Eastern Freeway beyond Thomson Rd. Suddenly the middle median strip disappeared with the extension to Doncaster. Originally, the middle median strip was going to be for a fast train from Doncaster to the City via a link up with the Hurstbridge line at Victoria Park. My Uncle was on the Ring Road design committee or whatever it was called in the late 1960's. The Greensborough link now being built was never in the original plans. It was supposed to be a major feeder road. Again it never got off the ground because of "Greenie" wildlife protection issues. So DH Dan Andrews conceived the 16KM tunnel that is costing Billions to satisfy a minority and plug a missing "link" of the Ring road that was NEVER part of the original plan. Even when the missing link was advertised to be completed, the original route was never part of any of the options. So we have a hotch potch solution to a problem that was created by a Government just trying to get more votes to waste even more of our money. (Soap Box has now collapsed under the weight)

Originally Posted by scarry

Getting on always seems to be an issue,as many,if not most have no idea how to merge into flowing traffic.

Getting off is reasonably easy,but the issue around here is the exit lanes are not long enough so the traffic banks up onto the motorway,which is not only dangerous but causes congestion.

One good thing being done down here is building long exit and entry ramps and routing them away from the main flow of traffic well before the actual need to exit reducing that backing up affect.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

One good thing being done down here is building long exit and entry ramps and routing them away from the main flow of traffic well before the actual need to exit reducing that backing up affect.

How long is long enough? Saw a log jam plus near here the other morning. I was doing that thing some call offensive Went passed and waved at a person I know. On my return wander I saw them still waiting to join the jam packed car park some call a Freeway
Not knocking traffic flow management. It is needed to help the issues which are only going to get worse.

The merging on to freeways at very slow speeds crew really are a special bunch.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

How long is long enough? Saw a log jam plus near here the other morning. I was doing that thing some call offensive Went passed and waved at a person I know. On my return wander I saw them still waiting to join the jam packed car park some call a Freeway
Not knocking traffic flow management. It is needed to help the issues which are only going to get worse.

The merging on to freeways at very slow speeds crew really are a special bunch.

Hume highway from ring rd is still a basketcase due to the lack of infrastructure heading out to the new slums.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

One good thing being done down here is building long exit and entry ramps and routing them away from the main flow of traffic well before the actual need to exit reducing that backing up affect.

They have done that around here as well,and in some places with shorter exit lanes gone to two lanes,on the exit lanes,which will work for a few years until the traffic flow increases again.

All we doing here is chasing our tail,particularly between Brisbane and the Gold Coast,this Motorway has become a disaster.We are on it a lot going to jobs,it is a clogged up nightmare every day,most of the day.