Thread: Trouble brewing with the local Council

Not sure if we are allowed to post a link. This was a council meeting in the UK that made the news here a while ago. The next meeting went no better


https://youtu.be/l17UIwAFOyk'si=0Kg6mwshiZux_meeting

I found a copy of the Casey Community Law (provisional 2003) and a lot of the information on the website didn't tally with it.

The Council have now posted an update which, interestingly, is closer to the Casey Community Law document.

Over recent days there has been some inaccurate information published online regarding Council’s Private Land Use Permit.

To clarify and reassure our community, this permit is part of the Casey Community Local Law and designed to protect the health, peace and safety of our community.

This permit has been in place for several decades, and aligns with our Local Law.
The Private Land Use Permit is not a tool designed to restrict or limit residents' activities on their own property, such as working on their cars or motorbikes, nor does it prevent visiting family or friends from staying in a caravan. It is simply a means to manage nuisance behaviours that disrupt the wellbeing of the community. Additionally, it is important to note that the use of such permits is common across many local councils in Victoria, not unique to Casey.

The purpose of the Private Land Use Permit is to address and mitigate nuisance behaviour that causes distress or concerns to neighbours and the broader community.
This includes issues such as large trucks being parked on private property, creating noise at inappropriate hours or causing damage to local streets, or individuals living in caravans on private property for extended periods of time, leading to potential health or water waste concerns, or properties hoarding old cars, which can negatively affect the local amenity and appearance of the street.
Instances where a resident needs to apply for a permit include:

• Using a recreational vehicle (e.g. go-kart or motorbike) on a private property
  
• Storing a shipping container (up to 90 days)
  
• Storing long heavy vehicles (e.g. large trucks)
• Storing more than 2 unregistered vehicles
• Using a temporary dwellings like a caravan for more than 14 days in any 60-day period.

Unfortunately, in recent days, our Customer Service Team has been subjected to threatening behaviour as a result of inaccurate information.
Our staff are here to assist and provide accurate information, and we request that all members of our community to approach them with respect and understanding.




The 'inaccurate information' they refer to was from their own website (which they've now conveniently partly corrected) !

If you want to conduct any of the following activities on private land, you will need a permit.

• Storing or repairing a recreational vehicle
  
• Storing a shipping container (up to 90 days)
  
• Storing long heavy vehicles (If you intend to park more than 1 long heavy vehicle on private land, please consult our planning team).
  
• Storing more than 2 unregistered vehicles (up to 90 days) - Was 'Any unregistered vehicle'
• Storing a skip bin
  
• Putting up temporary dwellings (no more than 14 days in any 60-day period)
• Dismantle, repair or service vehicles on private land (non-commercial)

There's still a couple of area's of concern so it still might be worth attending the next Council meeting


Colin

Originally Posted by gromit

Our staff are here to assist and provide accurate information, and we request that all members of our community to approach them with respect and understanding.

Hmm. While I agree in general terms with this sentiment, I believe that council staff need to be reminded that it works both ways. Had some dealings with your Council a few years back where the aggression came from the persons with the uniform ( not uncommon, in my experience ), and not me.

I'm going to have to explore the bylaws of YarraRanges, as I have an OKA in my driveway. I put it there as it is not allowed to be on the street, registered or not, as it is over 4.5 tonne. Even though it has a similar footprint to the average tradie's ute, it was the cause of some complaint by a faceless neighbour. At the time, Council said it would be ok on my driveway, but I'm now worried they will be looking at Casey and getting ideas.

Originally Posted by Tins

Hmm. While I agree in general terms with this sentiment, I believe that council staff need to be reminded that it works both ways. Had some dealings with your Council a few years back where the aggression came from the persons with the uniform ( not uncommon, in my experience ), and not me.

I'm going to have to explore the bylaws of YarraRanges, as I have an OKA in my driveway. I put it there as it is not allowed to be on the street, registered or not, as it is over 4.5 tonne. Even though it has a similar footprint to the average tradie's ute, it was the cause of some complaint by a faceless neighbour. At the time, Council said it would be ok on my driveway, but I'm now worried they will be looking at Casey and getting ideas.

I also generally agree, but some people do need to be told. I'm not sure what a "Community Law" is but if it is anything like a "Covenant " we sign to buy in some estates in QLD it is not enforceable according to a public prosecutor friend of a freind son who was a policeman, when I enquired about building a fence in my front yard. I built the fence and haven't had any problems.

I bought land in a new estate with a brick and tile covenant, so built an expensive house such. Later, fibro and tin houses were constructed and we found out that the covenant was not enforceable.

I haven't had time to watch this completely, so I apologise if there's any poor language..

John, it's YOUR responsibility to make sure any link or YouTube you post, does not contravene forum rules. No caveat relieves you of that responsibility. Fortunately, this link is compliant.

Originally Posted by gromit

Only if it's a 'recreational vehicle' but they don't give any real details and I'm not game to ask !


No, it would appear you pay for every non-registered vehicle on your land.


I think I understand what they are trying to do.....stop people running a business from a private residence and remove stripped down cars, parked trucks and anything unsightly from front gardens.

All but one vehicle is garaged plus I'm on a 'battle-axe' block so you can't see the property from the street so I 'should' be OK but not happy about having to pay $300 and is that annual or one off permit ? Somehow I recon they'd make you apply annually. So potentially I'd be slugged $300 annually for doing what I've been doing for the last 20 odd years.
I'd write to the local paper but I don't want to make myself a target. Maybe someone from Interstate or at least a few suburbs away from Casey could pass the link to the AOMC ?


Colin

Colin my Neighbour was elected in the last election i will talk to her , I hope she doesn't dob me in unregistered car unregistered bike 2 unregistered trailers ,
Any way as usual care factor is zilch till and when the council want to knock on my door for some education .