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    I grew up on the family farm, was shooting Grand pa's old 410 at 12 years of age. The real shooters and hunters will know it. A 303 on steroids, it has a sibling in the 20 gauge smooth bore, that used to be derided as the "Ladies Gun"
    Hunted all my life, never ever pulled a trigger unless I knew I had a clean true shot.
    Never ever taken more than mother could put in the pot that night.
    Have been in situations when I have been forced to fire or perish.

    But, I can't imagine the kind of mind, that can come up with some of the things, I have seen over the years. These are machines that are designed for one single purpose, and that is to make it easier, for humans to kill things.
    Yes, I like hunting and fishing.
    YES, the access to these machines must be controlled, and strictly.
    Oh, and people have to learn to control their brainless temper tantrums.
    Me too. I can spit the dummy in the world championship class.

    But, to take another life, like happened in those schools, it's unthinkable. Make the mistake of walking on the wrong side of the street, and get shot for it, unstable people and the ease of access to fire arms. Crazy.
    And yet, so much of the world claims right to "self-defence", and America, in this respect, is a tiny part of the mix.
    Europe, at least, the Eastern part, lots of angry people with guns.
    The Middle East, seems like every second person has an AK 47.

    Then we add in the joking rewrites of the Commandments, and people begin to actually believe they can justify this thinking.

    Remember "Do unto others before they do unto you?".

    Or, they project their personality onto others, "but, every body does it".

    How about the ultra cop out, "it's not my fault, I didn't have any guidance".

    Here's a thought, I know every body my age was taught the things I was.
    Do you think the liberal thinkers, who forced all these changes to the way we do things, just may have been wrong all along? I sure do.

    Shorty.

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    Interesting thread

    Fact is since Howard changed the Gun Law and removed automatic weapons from the Land death by gun in Australia has in the 10 years since declined by 50% and mass death by guns 100%

    Unfortunately we still have death by gun and we will until we remove every gun from the land but that's not simply not practical so it won't happen.

    Difference between USA and Australia is we do not have a gun culture, we don't have morons telling everyone that you have a legal right to own a gun, that if you do not have guns then the Government can remove your democratic right to Freedom.

    USA gun deaths per year is 30,000 plus that's more people killed by guns within the USA than USA servicemen killed during the same period of the Vietnam War.

    Now what is frightening to me is not whether you have guns in society or not, a gun is simply a tool that is can be miss used by a moron, what frightens me is the attitude towards guns and the right to bear arms and that they export that attitude to every western society via tv and movies and infect us with it.

    Never had a sensible answer from anyone in the USA about why the death rate from guns and the need to bear arms is so different between Canada and USA

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    Quote Originally Posted by cartm58 View Post
    Interesting thread

    Fact is since Howard changed the Gun Law and removed automatic weapons from the Land death by gun in Australia has in the 10 years since declined by 50% and mass death by guns 100%
    An interesting fact - and the opposite of the UK, where gun crime has risen every year since the 1997 ban on semi-auto's and pistols. However, both before and after that date, gun crime attributable to legal/licensed guns was near zero anyway! Wonder why it was so different here - would be interesting to look at all the stats involved...

    Also, in the case of the 1996 tragedy that prompted the law change, it's a widely held belief that the existing laws might well have been enough to have prevented it had everything been done properly - i.e. the perpetrator was potentially not a fit person to own a firearm, and this might well have been discovered had some of the facts which emerged at the inquiry been followed up at the time rather than after the fact. A true shame, but the fact remains that guns don't kill people, people kill people...guns just potentially make it easier if you give them to people with that intent.

    That said, I agree totally that the US with it's culture and total lack of gun control as a right (Which the gun lobby over there are still banging on about, even after this latest episode) is way too far the other way.

    Give me sensible, balanced gun laws openly debated between interested parties as oppposed to either none, or ones created for political gain and to appease public opinion in the aftermath of a tragedy any day.
    Last edited by jik22; 5th May 2007 at 06:19 PM.
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