Thread: Discowhite - Check it out

did you guys look at the post on pirate????
it is on the ROVER forum.
not hi-tech, they transplant td5's including all the electronics.
its all horses for courses, they like to drive moab, we like to drive the cape.
some dick posted that he likes dwe's 90 (which is nice)
but they have had factory 90's for over 10 years. (nas 90's the coolest 90's made)
maxi and jack mack get a decent income from the american market.
to the pirate guys that 90 is plain and old hat.
it would be like rocking up to the obc with a new extreme saying its the best 4wd ever made. its all opinion and won't cut it with that crowd.
flame suit on
david

as modman & slunnie have said... thats just pirates and personally think they've been quite tame compared to some i've seen. Basically wrong forum unless heavy mods done

Originally Posted by Outlaw

as modman & slunnie have said... thats just pirates and personally think they've been quite tame compared to some i've seen. Basically wrong forum unless heavy mods done

Hence why I dont frequent that POS board

Yeah same here Tombraider... i'm a member to view stuff only members can see and use as a resource but have never posted there.

I check it out regularly, and think there is a lot to be learned from them. Australians are young players compared to the yanks and they're at the extreme end of things.

Keep in mind also, that like we mod our 4WD's to do harder tracks and go that bit further, the guys on Pirate are just the same as us, but with a little more evolution on their side. Australias hard core 4x4 site is Outerlimits, and the guys on that that are trying to go beyond what we have here are all getting their tech (beyond their own innovations) from Pirate.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I check it out regularly, and think there is a lot to be learned from them. Australians are young players compared to the yanks and they're at the extreme end of things.

Keep in mind also, that like we mod our 4WD's to do harder tracks and go that bit further, the guys on Pirate are just the same as us, but with a little more evolution on their side. Australias hard core 4x4 site is Outerlimits, and the guys on that that are trying to go beyond what we have here are all getting their tech (beyond their own innovations) from Pirate.

Sorry got to disagree there to some extent.

American 4wds handle like **** drive like **** and generally built like ****

Australian know how is far superior IMHO as we build for the long haul drives and hard core and combine the best essence into one.

Some of the best innovations are Australian and far ahead of the yank counterparts...

Our suspensions are often stronger and more liveable...

American guys (generalisation) tend to space frame everything, install huge over the top motors and huge tyres...

Show me a revolution from the yanks? I've seen plenty of evolution no revolution...

Yanks always suck in the OBC... Their vehicles dont last the distance...
Their engineering doesnt cut it and the set up is often wrong.

This years OBC is no different.

I think alot of it has to do with what is legally driveable. For those in the above pic driving hardcore tube frame chassis cars with no wheel arches, etc; they would have to trailer it to the destination if it were australia. 4wds here are typically used for touring, so comfort also has a fairly large component (hence the D2 and D3 drivers around). For us to build a 4wd that could only play after a trailer ride, would cost serious cash, as it would most likely be the second 4wd.

I build tube frame race cars at uni, and realise the potential of a tube frame chassis.HOWEVER, dents in the tube will seriously compromise the strength of the roll cage and chassis rigidity. Something that is very unsafe, and the reason we use an alternate method of vehicle production. There will always be those who will build pure comp rigs, but to be honest it generally seemsthe Americans have lower standards for safety and more cash to spend on big toys.

Looking to things like Baja 1000, is where you will see offroad rigs built to what i consider amazing. All round independant suspension, large articulation, huuge power, but again no comfort. Id love to build a S2 LR with dual wishpone suspension, 35s, but thats cash i wont have untill i quit being a professional student.:P

Just my thoughts..... enjoy.

Originally Posted by tombraider

Sorry got to disagree there to some extent.

American 4wds handle like **** drive like **** and generally built like ****

Australian know how is far superior IMHO as we build for the long haul drives and hard core and combine the best essence into one.

Some of the best innovations are Australian and far ahead of the yank counterparts...

Our suspensions are often stronger and more liveable...

American guys (generalisation) tend to space frame everything, install huge over the top motors and huge tyres...

Show me a revolution from the yanks? I've seen plenty of evolution no revolution...

Yanks always suck in the OBC... Their vehicles dont last the distance...
Their engineering doesnt cut it and the set up is often wrong.

This years OBC is no different.

Likewise I disagree as most of you arguement seems to revolve around production vehicles and tourers etc like what you and I drive, and this I think we do extremely well in Australia, arguably the best. I'm not talking about domestic vehicles though, I'm talking about extreme trucks.

Also, like the Americans suck at OBC, we suck at WeRock etc.

The only thing that we have really contributed to the hard core scene is probably the recent X-link from Dobbin Engineering and the holey bushes for a radius arm 3 link. What else? Even the X-link was probably a reinvention according to those that have been around for a while, with the original being from the US. Australians just haven't been in the hard-core game long enough.