Results 1 to 9 of 9

Thread: Any plastics/rubber gurus out there?

  1. #1
    MickG's Avatar
    MickG is offline ChatterBox Silver Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast, Qld
    Posts
    2,737
    Total Downloaded
    0

    Any plastics/rubber gurus out there?

    Wondering if there is anyone here who knows more than most about plastics or rubber and the different types/properties of each. I'm also looking for information on different types of moulding of both plastics or rubber - compression moulding, injection moulding, etc etc.

    I am looking at the possibility of manufacturing a particualr product for the boat/marine industry and at this stage need pointing in the direction of a good resource for technical information on the various properties/specifications of plastics and rubbers and on from that, the various types of moulding processes available.

    Have come across a couple of useful related web sites and companies, but figure there might be someone on here who can either talk with authority or works in a related industry......worth a try

    Aye, Mick
    '99 Manual TD5 D2.......heap of money spent on it and it has ended

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Melbourn(ish)
    Posts
    26,505
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I know a little about it as its part of the mechanics course now its not indepth more of a how to identify plastics and what glue is good for what in regards to repairs..

    Might I suggest googling for a local plastic welding company.
    Dave

    "In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."

    For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.

    Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
    Tdi autoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
    Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)


    If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
    If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Launceston, TAS
    Posts
    853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Check out the yellow pages for someone local who does injection moulding of a similar sort of thing. Maybe irrigation fittings or something. They will be able to help you with the various compounds and also what can be mixed with what or can't be as the case may be. They will also be able to assist with other issues like mould building and the various methods too. (If you can't find someone who does injection moulding have a look for a local business with CNC equipment, they will likely make the moulds for local injection moulding company)

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    WA
    Posts
    13,786
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I have a fairly good textboox which would probably be what you are looking for.

    "Know your Plastics" 1992, Plastics Institute of Australia.

    If you can't find a copy near you, I can probably photocopy some bits and send them if you tell me what you want.

  5. #5
    tombraider Guest
    Quote Originally Posted by MickG View Post
    Wondering if there is anyone here who knows more than most about plastics or rubber and the different types/properties of each. I'm also looking for information on different types of moulding of both plastics or rubber - compression moulding, injection moulding, etc etc.

    I am looking at the possibility of manufacturing a particualr product for the boat/marine industry and at this stage need pointing in the direction of a good resource for technical information on the various properties/specifications of plastics and rubbers and on from that, the various types of moulding processes available.

    Have come across a couple of useful related web sites and companies, but figure there might be someone on here who can either talk with authority or works in a related industry......worth a try

    Aye, Mick
    Mick...


    Hit me via email with your questions... I've had 16+ years in the field.

    mike@trt.net.au

  6. #6
    51jay Guest
    The Partec Training Centre on the campus of the Mt Gravatt TAFE runs training courses in ALL aspects of the plastics industry, They have 3 large workshops there.
    07 38497878

  7. #7
    MickG's Avatar
    MickG is offline ChatterBox Silver Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast, Qld
    Posts
    2,737
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Cheers guys, apologies for the late reply and thanks for all the input. Have done the old Google search and located some local manufature and mouling companies, but before I walk in to any of these businesses looking like a goose, I need to familiarise myself the various types of plastics/rubbers available, their properties and suitbility for the task at hand. Armed with this basic info, the plan is then to design the product and then approach manufacturers regarding suitable mouldings, materials, etc etc and commence testing from there

    I know these are all how long is a piece of string questions, but things like "know your plastics" (cheers isuzurover) is the kind of thing I am after at this stage so I can start this project from a scientific angle. The product I am designing will have a specific application and will therefore lend itself to a particular type of plastic/rubber, in terms of material integrity, suitable manufacturing processes and cost implications of each aspect of design, prodction etc etc.

    Also, will give the Mt Gravatt TAFE a ring as this would be perfect to gain the knowledge this will require so thanks 51jay

    Cheers again guys and will check back into this thread for more advice/questions when I actually have a specific question, but thanks in the mean time and watch this space.......and the marine sector for a new and innovative plastic product

    Aye, Mick

    P.S. Assuming this makes if off my scrap book and into some kind of production.......anyone know anything about patenting, trademarking and IP etc........so many questions and people I am going to have to pay
    '99 Manual TD5 D2.......heap of money spent on it and it has ended

  8. #8
    RR5L Guest
    Mick,
    Before deciding on process or materials you probably need to also (and probably already have) consider the following
    Acceptable quality - Is it a cosmetic part or a functional part.
    Performance criteria - Will influence material selection and perhaps process.
    Quantities & Unit price - Along with Performance criteria will influence process

    For argument sake

    Rapid prototype part ie Stereolithography, Fused Deposition modelling, Selective laser Sintering is good for 1- 5 units for form and fit perhaps function in the right application. SLS has been used for larger quantities for production purposes in a varity of industries such as aerospace etc.

    Silicone tooling and polyurethane parts 1- 20 parts Form fit and limited functionality. ( more can be obtained from multiple cavities) from a prototype point of view very quick way to get parts that look like the real deal ie colour, textures, mimic material properties in a very short time frame. Nice thing with these materials a wide variety of hardnesses available Shore A10 - A90 rubber simulants through to Shore D45-D85 Rigid Plastic simulants.

    Reaction Injection Moulding (RIM) 1-1000s of parts tools can be made from simple fabricated moulds to steel tooling parts are still polyurethane but of a better quality. Typical parts are body kits for cars, large short run mouldings like gaming machine facias etc.

    Injection Moulding few as a 100 parts to full production quantities
    utilising tools made from everything from aluminum filled epoxy for a few parts, aluminum tooling for short run or prototype parts in production intent material to full on steel tooling for production quantities.


    Assuming your Queensland based you could also talk to the guys at the Queensland Manufacturing Institute for more info as well.

  9. #9
    MickG's Avatar
    MickG is offline ChatterBox Silver Subscriber
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Gold Coast, Qld
    Posts
    2,737
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by RR5L View Post
    Mick,
    Before deciding on process or materials you probably need to also (and probably already have) consider the following
    Acceptable quality - Is it a cosmetic part or a functional part.
    Performance criteria - Will influence material selection and perhaps process.
    Quantities & Unit price - Along with Performance criteria will influence process

    For argument sake

    Rapid prototype part ie Stereolithography, Fused Deposition modelling, Selective laser Sintering is good for 1- 5 units for form and fit perhaps function in the right application. SLS has been used for larger quantities for production purposes in a varity of industries such as aerospace etc.

    Silicone tooling and polyurethane parts 1- 20 parts Form fit and limited functionality. ( more can be obtained from multiple cavities) from a prototype point of view very quick way to get parts that look like the real deal ie colour, textures, mimic material properties in a very short time frame. Nice thing with these materials a wide variety of hardnesses available Shore A10 - A90 rubber simulants through to Shore D45-D85 Rigid Plastic simulants.

    Reaction Injection Moulding (RIM) 1-1000s of parts tools can be made from simple fabricated moulds to steel tooling parts are still polyurethane but of a better quality. Typical parts are body kits for cars, large short run mouldings like gaming machine facias etc.

    Injection Moulding few as a 100 parts to full production quantities
    utilising tools made from everything from aluminum filled epoxy for a few parts, aluminum tooling for short run or prototype parts in production intent material to full on steel tooling for production quantities.


    Assuming your Queensland based you could also talk to the guys at the Queensland Manufacturing Institute for more info as well.
    Thanks Rob, yeah have considered most of what you mention which is why I am trying to look at this from a technical perspective first off before getting too far with either a particular design, material or production process.......trying to use the old "form follows function" approach and be led by the demands of the product requirements.

    Having said all that, please keep the ideas and comments coming if anyone thinks of anythng I may have missed, as all commments and contacts so far are being compiled as part of the research process and when the time is right, contact shall be made where appropriate

    Thanks again guys and perhaps this will be one of my weird and wonderful ideas that actully comes off..........perhaps

    Aye, Mick
    '99 Manual TD5 D2.......heap of money spent on it and it has ended

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!