Thread: Scorpion racing

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bless em.....

Oh well there loss I got it a lone (ofcoarse with the help of a few fine chaps here)

I got a call back from rovercraft just then, he advised me that that going a 4 inch lift will not improve my flex at all. He advise that due to the ACE that the only benifit from a lift is clearence namely for bigger tyres and in order for more flex that the ace has got to go

having said that if you go 2 inch suspension and a 2.5 inch body lift in theory is the same as doing a 4.5 inch suspension lift if you have ace with out the geometry issues TRUE OR FLASE

now dispite being advised in a wired manner that he would call me back, he actually did and due this I owe him a applogy for the fact that he did give me some info correct or wrong it was his prefesional opinion

Word of advice for rovercraft explain why you need to call some one back its called custom service it go a long way should rover craft have not called me back it was one customer lost that is willing to spend a bucket load of his cash stupidly

any way was rovercraft in his info correct

Calling you back is an offer of respect IMO.

If he was very busy, and serving someone else (and you were that someone else) would you not want his full attention?

Originally Posted by tombraider

Calling you back is an offer of respect IMO.

If he was very busy, and serving someone else (and you were that someone else) would you not want his full attention?

Ah yes Common courtesy states, that you should advise the person your currently serving with an excuse me, then answer the phone, you should then proceed and advise the person on the phone that your currently serving another customer and should they wish to leave a name and a number you will call back ASAP.

NOT name number and hang up on the person

Any way if I was running a business I wouldn't have it any other way

I would still shop there though not holding anything against them at all as stated the bloke gave me a whole lot of details wright or wrong I dont know but it was his pro opinion

Im not into this Scorpion Equip Crap as far as Im aware there both crap appose what we can do here

Ive been getting Emails from Scorpian reps asking what they can do for me.....

WOW cust service at last.....

Mmmm What i want is free set of rear Shock drop mounts to compensate the last set i had that broke...
Do i have the broken one.. Nope turfed them and said i'd never use Scorpian again... BUT if its Free..... Maybe......

Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

I got a call back from rovercraft just then, he advised me that that going a 4 inch lift will not improve my flex at all. He advise that due to the ACE that the only benifit from a lift is clearence namely for bigger tyres and in order for more flex that the ace has got to go

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any way was rovercraft in his info correct

I haven't had any experience with ACE, but in general spring lift is only one factor and does not improve flex unless other changes are made.

The travel is usually limited by the stroke of the stock shockies. If longer travel shockies are fitted, then other parts of the suspension come into play to limit the travel.

How ACE affects this I am not competent to say, but I wouldn't be surprised if it needs changing.

Say for example that the stock setup allows 75mm of bump travel and 125mm of droop (measured at the shockie).

Now fit springs with a higher spring rate and increased free length, so the vehicle is raised 100mm.

Then you will only get 25mm of droop. And you may get 175mm of bump travel. But the force to induce that much bump travel will be much greater (because of the higher spring rate and the increased distance that the spring is compressed).

So it is reasonable to expect less flex in some cases.

Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

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having said that if you go 2 inch suspension and a 2.5 inch body lift in theory is the same as doing a 4.5 inch suspension lift if you have ace with out the geometry issues TRUE OR FLASE

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False. But depending upon what results you want, it may be as good, or even better in some aspects.

OK....

Slunnie is the 4" lifted Disco man.... He'll pipe up soon if you wait...

He has 4" coils, longer bilstein shocks (GU fronts? and 10" buggy shocks in the rear) custom valved, extended bump stops and "in coil" air bags (unsure of brand) and modified the front ACE mounts using rear connections IIRC.... This helped the handling and performance a lot.

He also modified the watt linkage bracket a bit...

Body Lifting a D2 is illegal and will fail roadworthy and insurance.

Just to keep you enticed whilst he answers...