V8 vs 200 Tdi

**p38arover** · 5th October 2007, 10:35 PM

For the past week I've been driving a Disco 200 Tdi manual.

What a gutless thing off the line when towing a loaded trailer (full of daughter's possessions). I was trying to start from a stop sign on a mild slope and I kept getting reverse or 3rd gear - I couldn't get 1st so the bloody thing wouldn't take off, it'd bog down.

After a few tries it dawned on me that I did have 1st gear! ....

... but the slug of a thing wouldn't pull the load without a fair bit of clutch slip.

I struck this a few times of the next couple of days with the trailer both loaded and empty. I'd hate to try pulling a loaded caravan with one. I think an auto box would be mandatory.

I had the same problem a few days earlier (at a set of traffic lights) without a trailer and the bloke in the car behind me was getting frantic on the horn as the Disco moved further and further back as I kept getting reverse.

Give me the auto V8 any day!

Ron

**D110V8D** · 5th October 2007, 10:41 PM

Ron!...When will you learn....you need an Isuzu to be able to pull anything!

**p38arover** · 5th October 2007, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by D110V8D

Ron!...When will you learn....you need an Isuzu to be able to pull anything!

You can't pull birds with an Isuzu!

Ron

**D110V8D** · 5th October 2007, 11:04 PM

Originally Posted by p38arover

You can't pull birds with an Isuzu!

Ron

Hey....do you mind if I use that line sometime?

**p38arover** · 5th October 2007, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by D110V8D

Hey....do you mind if I use that line sometime?

All yours - no attribution needed.

Ron

**PhilipA** · 6th October 2007, 08:07 AM

Jeez Ron, UNCLEAN!!!
You will be excommunicated from the diesel religion and the inquisition will be coming for you soon.

Having not driven one on the highway I cannot directly agree, but I remember being behind Graeme Cooper's 130 300Tdi one day at a level crossing. He sort of stumbled/crawled away , and I asked him on the CB if something was wrong . He said no that he just hadn't got the revs right on takeoff.
On the same trip we were drving into the Warrumbungles , and there are some really steep little pinches. The Disco 300Tdi auto in front of me on a hill just suddenly virtually stopped. I just kept going until I was a couple of car lengths behind, then asked what was up? He was ****ed at me for coming up on him fast in my 3.9 Rangie. But I certainly didn't expect him to slow down violently in front of me.
The diesel guys all boast about the torque but especially the 200 and 300 have a high torque rise. Fall off the torque and you stop ( as you have found).
Regard s Philip A

**Utemad** · 6th October 2007, 08:27 AM

I feel for you Ron.

I have driven a 300Tdi manual with just me in it and I thought I was going to need low range just to pull away from the lights on flat ground

I was told they take a different driving style to get them to perform but I wasn't convinced (or interested).

The 3 litre N/A Hilux I drove around had more go.

**loanrangie** · 6th October 2007, 08:33 AM

300 tdi auto's definately have better pulling power, the only time i find it sluggish is on a cold morning when i pull out of my court which is in a dip and drive uphill, once the boost comes on no problems.

**waynep** · 6th October 2007, 08:45 AM

They pull away better with a straight through exhuast or sports muffler.
But yes, it can be a problem. There's alway low range of course

**LandyAndy** · 6th October 2007, 08:51 AM

Had the same problem with my D2 TD5 when towing the car trailer with the stage1 on it a few weeks ago,once she was moving it did a good job,just a pain to get moving from a standstill.
Andrew

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