Thread: painting advice

Originally Posted by taff

hi all after weeks of filling, priming, sanding, priming, sanding and sanding some more i'm almost ready to put some paint on my county ute.
i finally decided on my first choice of tangiers orange with the flares and chequer plate black. i picked up the paint and all the other good bit's today and hopefully come saturday i should be seeing something orange rather than cream.
i'm painting the doors, bonnet and wings seperate - i.e. off the car and was hoping somebody would be able to advise as to how long to leave the paint ( 2 pak direct gloss ) before handling the doors etc and re-fitting them.
also if any one has any tips ref the painting then fire away as this is the second time i've painted a car and the first time didn't work out quite as i'd hoped
time to see if i've learned from my mistakes
jason

2 pack? are you a panel beater by trade?

Good idea to do each panel seperately, unless your compressor is massive, as the finish will be a lot better.

Family member (and panel beater) can't advise how long to leave 2 pack before handling as its always done in the booth.

You will need an oxygen supply.

Originally Posted by joel_nicholson

2 pack? are you a panel beater by trade?

no i'm a tiler with a set of iron lungs

Ok fair enough

Will look good in Tangiers and black

Originally Posted by taff

no i'm a tiler with a set of iron lungs

You do know that some 2 pak is an Iso-Cyanate, toxic and chemically related to cyanide don't you?

Health Effects
Acute - Inhaled: Vapour may be irritant to mucous membranes and respiratory tract. Inhalation of vapour can result in headaches, dizziness and possible nausea. Inhalation of high concentrations can produce central nervous system depression, which can lead to loss of co-ordination, impaired judgement and, if exposure is prolonged, unconsciousness. Harmful if inhaled.

Exposure limit not specified by the National Health & Safety Commission (Worksafe Australia). Recommended exposure limit is 100 ppm, 8 hour time weighted average (T.W.A).

Personal Protection: Avoid contact with skin and eyes. Wear suitable clothing such as impervious overalls, PVC or Neoprene gloves, safety goggles. Wear an air-fed mask or, for short periods of work, a combination of charcoal filter and particulate filter is recommended.

Make sure you have the right gear!

Diana

it's o.k. i have a respirator and all the safety gear, i was just making a light hearted joke.

When this paint (Iso-Cyanate) was released in the USA there was a spate of deaths of Backyard and amatuer painters, it would be WISE to hire an Air-Fed respirator suit. As far as handling after painting, spray asection (inside guard) and use this area to test hardness (drieness), Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by taff

it's o.k. i have a respirator and all the safety gear, i was just making a light hearted joke.

That's O.K. then - If it were a Nissan or Tojo driver a I would have said go for it paint your two pak but for best results do it in an enclosed space!! Land Rover owners are far too valuable!

Diana

The problem with 2 pak other than it's not good for the lungs is that depending on how hot it is and the humidity changes the mix considerably and drying times can vary depending on the mix as well.

If the mix isnt right it will either not cure hard enough or be extremely brittle, worse than acrylic.

This is why most backyarders that havnt got a booth use either Acrylic or Enamel.

I just did my first paint job in about 2 years a couple of months ago and it takes a bit of getting used to again.

Make sure you use a water separator and a good quality pressure regulator on the line to give you the best chance of a good job.