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The P38A diff used in the Disco II isn't very strong either. The main failures have been lots of wheel spin followed by sudden contact with ground, resulting in damage to the spider gears.

An ARB diff locker fixes the weak diff centres whilst offering additional traction aid.

But I have not heard of the crown wheel nuts coming loose on any of the DII differentials that have broken..... Could it be due to different assembly processes?

Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams

I love it

At no stage do Shareholder and Customer satisfaction both look happy

That's about right too

I could have also included Retal Price!

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NB: The dollars are never small!

does sound like a torque biasing diff, but how it works internally is anyones idea...
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Published in 23 de outubro de 2006

Published in October 23, 2006

Diferencial Inteligente Kaiser

Differential Intelligent Kaiser


The performance of the vehicle equipped with the Intelligent Differential Kaiser, it is different from a vehicle equipped with a conventional differential, for example:

With Differential Intelligent Kaiser both wheels get traction by virtue of equal, if one loses the adhesion to the ground, the traction (applied) will be kept by the wheel opposite, allowing cross barriers and make curves with greater control and driveability.

automatic, independent auxiliary of accessories, electrical or pneumatic.

The Differential Intelligent Kaiser allows performing spins in any direction (right-left) without any problem (torsion, crashes, etc.), indefinitely.

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Originally Posted by 1103.9TDI

I can't believe the mentality of this company. They've had issues with the weak CW&P on the Rover diff for a long time, so rather than strengthening the unit, they put it on the rear!. What a bunch of stupid gits!.

People ask me about my vehicle, and are genuinely interested, especially when you mention things like reliability and strength of components. The conversation inevitably ends with, 'well what do you reckon the new ones are like?'. From now on I'll be telling them they're shyte. Weaker gearbox, diffs, running gear, electrics/electronics, roof, and bonnet!. I'm all for moderisation, but not when it's a backward step!. When you bring out an updated model, it's supposed to be better than the previous!!!. It really must be a sheltered workshop over there!.

Well... All I'll say is that if you knew what went into the testing of the components, you'd probably change your views somewhat.

M

All I'll say is that if you knew what went into the testing of the components

Maybe not enough!, it's probably about time some of those people started to listen, rather than build another kids pickup shopping basket, that the Defender is in danger of becoming. Some of the magazines here will soon be putting it up against a Toyota Kluger if we're not careful!.

The other point is they look so bad with the bonnet up, being towed, or just on the side of the road, awaiting help......these situations are nowhere as infrequent as they should be........

Tell me this: Can you see a downside to designing a vehicle that is basic and easy to maintain, is able to take more punishment than the usual 4x4, has a great reputation for off road ability, has a simply efficient engine, is also easily and cheaply modifiable to something virtually unstoppable and Is produced out of components that are engineered and manufactured to last?.

Sounds like an early 110 or Rangie!, and they had great lineage/reputation, so how come they've lost their way.........

Well... I was going to get onto my soap-box and have a bit of a rant about poor driving, maintenance, etc... but I can't be arsed! The way I see it is this:

I see some of the testing... You don't.

I have plenty of real life experience. I've seen plenty of drive train failures, which most (if not all) can be put down to poor driving.

I think we'll just have to agree to disagree.

M

I dunno.. I'm going to have to side with the "this company must be crazy" Group in this one.. The rover type Diff was origanally designed in the late 30's for the Rover P3 sedan. Good stuff at the time.. But some 65 years later the best they can do is add a couple spider gears and call it an improvement (P38) Sorry testing or not that's silly.. Nissan see's Folks putting big tires and lockers in thir trucks and build a bigger rear end, Toyota see's the same thing and encourages the aftermarket to impress upon them what it will take to keep the car from breaking, Jeep see's the trend and put's in bigger diffs AND Lockers from the factory.. LR sees what is happening with their trucks and down grades? Even a slight downgrade (say Dana 60 to a Dana 50) would be stupid. But to go from a tried and proven diff that will hardly wear out and resist tons of abuse to the "latest rendition" of a piece of (explitive deleted ) shows the company has finally lost it's mind.

Sorry I'm very opinionated when it comes to diff's.

thanks Keith, I was just about to compare standard coiler Nissan Patrol F/R diffs, (H233b) which are roughly equivalent to a D60 in strength, then the high payload cab chassis (1300kg) uses a heavy duty rear end (H260) which is a bigger diff again !
What does Land Rover use in their high payload (1300kg) cab chassis ? a bloody Rover spiral beval diff.......

A Rover diff might have been OK with 6.00/16 bar treads and 150lb/ft torque back in the day, but the world has moved on......