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    buying a td, pitfalls

    I have a 89 rangie ATM and I am considering upgrading in the new year to a td5. what are the pitfalls with late 90 model discovery, possible 96- 99 models. Looking to spend less than $15000 or there abouts. Auto/ Manual- seems to be a lot of auto's about have they any inherant problems. I have always liked manuals in 4 X 4's due to the fact if I need to I can rebuild my self and they are generally cheaper to rebuild. Do they have problems that occur at certain km, like a fault may occur at 200 000km but nearly garanteed to be fixed by 240 000km. How many km's would one expext out of a discovery of the pre mentioned vintage. Might add it worries the crap out of me when buying a vehicle and the best 2 I have purchased would be the wifes current car (mazda 626) and my old rangie (which I love).
    Thanks heaps in advance and maybe someone wants to sell me a good td5 in the new year (do mind traveling for the right car, even to wa)
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    blaze
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    I think the Td5 only came out in 2000? Maybe a few in 1999 but not many...

    At least that was the timing in the Defender anyway..

    You may have to look for something newer or else settle on a 300tdi or 3.9V8i if you're looking in that age bracket.

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    you are more than likely right, screw up on my part. The ones I am looking at are the 96 - 99 models and diesel.
    cheers
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    Well I expect it'll be a 300tdi then. In which case there are a few things to look out for, most important of which is the timing belt. Needs to be done every 80'000 km's, if there is any doubt then get it done.

    The coolant bottle should be white, not black. The black ones can burst apparently, the fix was a replacement white one.

    The ZF auto should still be powering along nicely and is a good match to the diesels (200tdi / 300tdi / td5) as it hides any turbo lag and keeps you in the torque band all the time.

    If it's the R380 manual then I doubt there'll be an issue with that era. There was an early issue with main shaft wear in the gearbox but I believe they released a fix by '96.

    Always look for a good logbook of course... and as for milage, I would guess around 160'000km's => 200'000km's. My '94 has just ticked over 200'000km's to give you an idea.

    EDIT: Going from a v8 to a diesel can be a bit of a shock. It's a double-edged sword. Yes your wallet will love you, but you lose out on the sweet sound of the V8 and it's a different style of driving as you need to take the turbo and it's spin up into consideration.
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    I would imagine you would hard pressed trying to get a TD5 Disco anyway for 15000 there more like around the 18000 with a fair few k's from my experence my budget was 14k so a V8 was the only way to go D2 anyway

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    the v8 is what I would be trying to get away from, Love the drive in the v8 rangie but dont like the economy that much. In saying that, the old saying "the devil you know is better than the one you dont Know" and I can buy a lot of fuel for $15k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams View Post
    Well I expect it'll be a 300tdi then. In which case there are a few things to look out for, most important of which is the timing belt. Needs to be done every 80'000 km's, if there is any doubt then get it done.

    The coolant bottle should be white, not black. The black ones can burst apparently, the fix was a replacement white one.

    The ZF auto should still be powering along nicely and is a good match to the diesels (200tdi / 300tdi / td5) as it hides any turbo lag and keeps you in the torque band all the time.

    If it's the LT380 manual then I doubt there'll be an issue with that era. There was an early issue with main shaft wear in the gearbox but I believe they released a fix by '96.

    Always look for a good logbook of course... and as for milage, I would guess around 160'000km's => 200'000km's. My '94 has just ticked over 200'000km's to give you an idea.

    EDIT: Going from a v8 to a diesel can be a bit of a shock. It's a double-edged sword. Yes your wallet will love you, but you lose out on the sweet sound of the V8 and it's a different style of driving as you need to take the turbo and it's spin up into consideration.
    he ment R380 gear box and LT230 trans case

    cheers phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by discowhite View Post
    he ment R380 gear box and LT230 trans case

    cheers phil
    D'oh, corrected

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    You should be able to get a pretty good 98 model tdi for that sort of money. The engine seems to pretty reliable if a bit slow (mines done 245000km). They do like to leave a little calling card with a little oil drip though. Only real annoyance mines had is with drivers door lock servo unit playing up and the window regulators playing up. Dayco belt tensioners need replacing every now and then, radiator is smaller than v8 so it needs to cleaned and flushed more often i'd say. Timing belt schedule is crucial and it must have upgraded pulley kit done if it hasn't allready.(technocrats can probably explain this one better). Also on cooling make sure that the you change the plastic plugs on top of the thermostat housing and radiator to brass ones. The plastic ones have a nasty habit of going at the most awkard times i.e like when 500km from the nearest spare parts dealer.

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    Blaze, the Auto is much kinder to the driveline off road, it's always in the right gear and instead of busting the engine's guts with a manual trying to get up a tough track, you can just crawl up with little or no wheelspin, I have 4.11 diffs in my disco with 33's and I dont have any runaway problems downhill, the ZF is a strong, reliable box, maintain it and you shouldn't have any problems, Regards Frank.

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