I still prefer the old fassion road atlas. Sits between the cubby box and drivers seat. Need to use it stop get a clear bearing then push on.
Easo
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I still prefer the old fassion road atlas. Sits between the cubby box and drivers seat. Need to use it stop get a clear bearing then push on.
Easo
A GPS is just another piece of techno junk to add to all the other techno junk that you dont really need in a car to distract you from the real purpose of sitting behind the wheel of a car (Driving the damn thing in a safe and responsible manner)
Cmon people we have driven for years without them why suddenly do we need them to tell us how to get somewhere I for one can get lost just as well before these contraptions where available :D
I generally mount my GPS down low near the cubby box in the defender, and pull over if I need to consult it, generally its just a glance to confirm still on the right track.
In the work low-lux I have it mounted centre screen on the dash, doesn't obstruct the view, but it would if mounted in the bottom right of the screen. At the moment something like an auto routing GPS is legal, I'm not so sure about a plain GPS
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Originally Posted by Aust Road Rules
May just be the way I'm reading it, so open to change my mind.
Martyn
Mine is in a PDA mount in the bottom right of the dash/window intersection near the pillar - well out of the way but where one doesn't have to drop one's sight.
I don't look at it much, I listen to the instructions - then usually ignore them as they are often wrong. I've turned off the "You are exceeding the speed limit" announcements - my wife used to hear them and nag me as well.
Re things in the middle of the screen, there is an old couple near me that have two disabled stickers on their screen. Both stickers are side by side in the middle of the screen!
guy killed with the cricket bat is sad but indicitive of our current society and lack of accountability and repercussions for these actions. The police need to be held accountable as they were informed of what this group was doing and acts of violence from this group over 30 minutes before the murder occured. I respect the police and the job they do but that sort of response is just not acceptable anywhere. They could not have had that many priority jobs and if they did not roster on all Police over this period it is just poor management. There is no excuse that will suffice from the WA police for this inaction. I have seen this heaps of times, when they are to scared to attend violent situations and delay response times.Quote:
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As for the being booked for being over 0.05 when walking near a car, that is a big croc. You can not be booked with dui or dd unless you are siting in a car with keys on you or in the ignition. You can not be booked if the keys are in the glovebox or console etc. So for those of you who get drunk and want to sleep in the car remember that, and that came straight from police officers. However you could be booked for being intoxicated in public or being drunk and disorderley.
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Quote "As for the being booked for being over 0.05 when walking near a car, that is a big croc. You can not be booked with dui or dd unless you are siting in a car with keys on you or in the ignition. You can not be booked if the keys are in the glovebox or console etc. So for those of you who get drunk and want to sleep in the car remember that, and that came straight from police officers. However you could be booked for being intoxicated in public or being drunk and disorderley."
The story featured a very senior Qld. Police officer and he was pleased at a recent court ruling that convicted a man for DUI with associated licence demerit points. He repeated that you did not have to do anything other than be near a parked car and you could be tested if you were ! His advice (and I repeat ! ) If you are on public land and you are over .05 stay away from parked cars. His words NOT mine. Furthermore there have been many reported convictions in NSW when people have been sleeping it off in their vehicles and have not driven anywhere, regardless of where the keys are.
G'day Folks :)
It used to be in Qld, that if you didn't have the keys in your possession you were OK, but it changed in recent years, and anybody over the age of 10, if, in a parked vehicle is considered in-charge of said vehicle, so if you are sleeping it off in the back seat or the front and the keys are under the tyre, you are still in charge of the vehicle and will be booked accordingly.
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I would like to see the court doccuments for that one as it is a serious misinterpretation of the law. The prosecutor must be able to prove you intended driving. There have been a number of publicised cases over here that have been thrown out of court. The only way you could be convicted is to admit guilt. You can not be prosecuted for DD or DUI just for being near a parked car. Read your states traffic act.Quote:
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The jails would be full as would the courts.
CraigE
I believe the relevant words in both the NSW and Qld Acts are "In control of the vehicle " and "in effective control of the vehicle". The exact meaning of these words has been decided by the overzealous courts and the precedents have been written (and lately their meaning has been widened ).
Intent to drive or indeed capability of driving (e.g. you don't have ready access to the keys ) whilst a good point, in logic, is overridden by the the legal precedent. It would appear that the only way, in those two states, to avoid a possible conviction is to remain on private property. If you wish to sleep it off in your car then firstly obtain the landowner's permission and secondly park your car on that private property before you start to imbibe !
My point was and is that this law is an ass !
Yep, I agree the law is an ass and there are some stupid interpretations. My point would be without a guilty plea the judge would have erred in the judgement to what the original law was intended. We all often drive to friends places and drink with the intention of walking home. Big can of worms if judges are making stupid verdicts like this. Even judges need to be held accountable. These types of rulings need to be contested vigourously. I am very much against drink driving, but if someone decides to sleep it off in their car rather than drink drive I would back them 100%. The momment that car is started then they deserve all they get.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivery819