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    Question Please excuse my Ignorance but.....

    Does the new Defender come with an Auto box option, Thanks, Regards Frank.

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    No.
    You could convert it though.

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    That'd be expensive! Fork out for a new car and then have to mod it for an auto box.

    The new 6 speed is a beautiful gearbox to operate. Light. Accurate. Have you tried one, or do you just have to have an auto for whatever reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by George130 View Post
    No.
    You could convert it though.
    I understand it would not be an easy conversion, as there is no vehicle on the market running the Transit engine which has an auto attached. Therefore it would mean picking a box and modifying and adjusting everything to suit.

    Not impossible of course, but the 200/300tdi and Td5 engines have a ready made donor box from the Discovery, which makes the job a lot easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by numpty View Post
    I understand it would not be an easy conversion, as there is no vehicle on the market running the Transit engine which has an auto attached. Therefore it would mean picking a box and modifying and adjusting everything to suit.

    Not impossible of course, but the 200/300tdi and Td5 engines have a ready made donor box from the Discovery, which makes the job a lot easier.
    True. Could be fun to do anyway. Glad I don't have the money to try

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    I might be wrong but I understand that frod has copied a landrover tradition and the bellhousing to fit the manual is from something else which can have an auto so all you would probably have to do is make up a new engine-bellhousing adaptor o suit the engine and whichever ford auto you wanted to install...

    IF they kept the r380 bellhousing layout (highly unlikey but) then the bellhousing from a d2 auto will cut the mustard.

    If scallops is still interested in doing a side by side of his 07110 and my 02110 then lots and lots of stuff shall be revealed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blknight.aus View Post
    I might be wrong but I understand that frod has copied a landrover tradition and the bellhousing to fit the manual is from something else which can have an auto so all you would probably have to do is make up a new engine-bellhousing adaptor o suit the engine and whichever ford auto you wanted to install...

    IF they kept the r380 bellhousing layout (highly unlikey but) then the bellhousing from a d2 auto will cut the mustard.

    If scallops is still interested in doing a side by side of his 07110 and my 02110 then lots and lots of stuff shall be revealed.
    The engine and gearbox are both Ford units and completely different to what has gone before (IIRC - the gearbox is the MT82). On the back of the gearbox, there is a spacer block and then into the transfer box.

    The other thing you'd have to consider is how to deal with the ECU and the decisions it makes based on inputs from the gearbox.

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    Ashcroft have been converting a new 90 using a ZF, has taken them months to convert, they still use an LT230 tc so its the bellhousing end causing the drama's.
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    I would suggest it's cheaper to fix your left leg than install an auto That's what I'd do.

    Manuals are more fun anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by spudboy View Post
    That'd be expensive! Fork out for a new car and then have to mod it for an auto box.

    The new 6 speed is a beautiful gearbox to operate. Light. Accurate. Have you tried one, or do you just have to have an auto for whatever reason?
    I just believe there is no better transmission for off-road work, they are much kinder to driveline components and you dont need to flog the engine to get up over an obstacle. The auto only requires light throttle to overcome most obstacles, at low revs torque is increased which allows better rock crawling.
    I suppose it's what you come to like better over the years, I have had a mix of manual g/boxes and autos and in my opinion the auto is my choice, coupled with front and rear lockers there's not many places I cant go, but to each, his own.
    My Son just informed that Transits have a type of semi-auto gearbox available behind the diesel, anyone know anything about them, how they work and are the Ford motor in the Defender the same as in the Transit, Regards Frank.

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