LPG prices.... over 80 cpl....whats the story ???

I was reading overlander magazine the other day and there was an article in the back from one of the regular contributors and it was about this environmental meeting thing (has some queer name cant remember what it was) in shanghai and he went along for a listen.

Here is the short of what he said about oil and the price of fuel.

At the moment fuel would be over $2/L if the Aussie dollar wasnt so strong against the USD.

However things are looking grim, at the moment we (the world) are using crude oil as quickly as we can suck it up, there are no more oil reserves to be discovered (direct from one if the big men at Shell), we simply cant suck it up any quicker, so as demand goes up, supply cant, hence price rises.

Wait it gets worse. At the moment for every 1000 people in Aus, around 600-700 own a car, in China thats 25-30 cars for every 1000 people. At present there are 800million cars on the planet wizzing around using fuel. In the next few years with industry booming and the economy booming in china the amount of cars/1000 people will match australia, when that happens the amount of cars in the world will double, yet oil supplies remain the same, and remember they are struggling to meet demand now. When this happens only James Packer will be able to put fuel in his Aston Martin, the rest of us will have to walk. Well maybe not that bad. but you get my point.

but as he also pointed out there are upsides to this. Cars are more fuel efficient than ever at the moment, with maybe the exception of the US, and they will only get more efficient as technology becomes available and there is a drive to push for economic cars.

Also at the moment people can still afford, well the can still pay for fuel. When it hits $2/L plus people will be stretched further and further. As the price of fuel goes higher the push for alternative fuels will get harder and all these patents that the oil companies have been hiding for so many years for clean renewable options for powering cars will become available and financially viable. So things arent all bad, well not for the future anyway. Matt

New Zealand price for Lpg is $1.08per ltr and 96 petrol is about $1.76 per ltr...:burnrubber:

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Originally Posted by sclarke

Petrol is about 18-20L/100 and LPG is about 24-26L/100

Not worth the conversion if LPG hits $1 per litre

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That's interesting. I went to the local fuel cost website and this are the figures for Brisbane tonight.

LPG = 26 * .70 = $18.2
Petrol = 20 * 1.30 = $26
Diesel = 11 * 1.39 = $15.29

This confirms for me that diesel is the cheapest way to push a big car. And I can top up out of a jerry can, and I still have a boot...

I'm sure the petrol probably would do a little better on the highway, but still at $10 per hundred k's if you did 25k a year you'd save about $2.5k on juice.

Over the longer term, even if every 10 years your diesel incurred 6 or 7 more on maintenance than a petrol you'd still have nearly $20 in your pocket over the petrol :o :o

As to peak oil, yep we're definitely there. Supply is no longer growing and demand is still increasing. It's going to be pretty tough for a bit but I'm sure we'll sort ways around it.

We really need to work on ways of generating clean power because once we've done that hydrogen is opened up as an alternative, and then we'll truly have clean renewable motoring :) Rejoyce in your motoring now as I'm pretty confident that in 20 years things will be very different to what they are today.

only 2 things i can think of. the week that the oil companies were cleared of suspicion of price fixing, the prices shot up and then as we changed to a labor government, they went up again.
looks like the KRUDD is really starting to make a difference, i hope all of those labor voters are happy. yes, we needed a change!
yeah, right!

With the price of LPG currently still in proportion to the cost of petrol, it's still a good savings, so I'm not complaining too much.

I drive a Discovery fitted with vapour sequential injection and it consumes about 15-20% more on LPG than on petrol, but the savings is still there. I do find it frustrating that LPG costs a lot more in the remote places, but so is petrol, so I think I'm still ahead of the game.

Lawrance

Broome:

1.62 diesel
1.58 lpg
.99 LPG

Give or take a few cents we are still being charged exorbitant prices. It's at the stage that to run a V8 landy on gas up here it is already out of the question due to consumption. Yet it is surprising that private and industry are still prepared to buy vehicles that use fuel, when driven inconsiderately, like it is going out fashion, much like mullets and winnie blues.

I went to get a quote on a new exhaust a month ago and the fella said come back when its empty and we can run some comparitive consumption tests. I'm yet to empty half a tank and would question any of my mates who run a 4.2 diesel to do the same.

The question is in areas where supply of diesel is required, like areas of Victoria, which relies more and more on LPG (I can remember my old man filling his hz panelvan up at 5c a litre), why doesn't the government realise that people rely on different types of fuel, which may be more economical, and subsidise subsequently to reduce use of fuel use that is harmful to the environment?

It may be that big business again rules what the government decides? Are we ready for a government that may well consider the cost of living in Australia and maybe reduce the price at the pump?


Hmmm...I leave you to decide