Thread: Taking rear seats out.

Rear seats in the 110 have always been readily removable, but I have heard that some states, including Queensland, have prosecuted or threatened to prosecute owners for doing this without getting an engineer's approval each time a seat is removed or refitted (which is ridiculous), although it may have been only when they had stopped a car and were looking for something to get them on. So I would check with the local authorities.

John

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Rear seats in the 110 have always been readily removable, but I have heard that some states, including Queensland, have prosecuted or threatened to prosecute owners for doing this without getting an engineer's approval each time a seat is removed or refitted (which is ridiculous), although it may have been only when they had stopped a car and were looking for something to get them on. So I would check with the local authorities.

John

Not quite. In QLD you only need a mod plate (NO engineers involved) if you intend to PERMANENTLY remove seats and belts from a vehicle.

Rules are pretty much the same in all states, and will be 100% the same once the NCOP comes into effect.

Plenty of info here:
Removal of Seats

The following comment has been provided to Four Wheel Drive Victoria by Vic Roads.

This issue has been blown out of all proportion. There is no reason seats
that are designed to be removable cannot be removed. Doing this DOES NOT
alter the seating CAPACITY of the vehicle. Seating capacity is defined by
the Australian Design Rules as the maximum number of seating positions for
which the vehicle is DESIGNED - ie not the number of seats actually fitted
at any point in time.

By inter-government agreement vehicle standards are common throughout
Australia. This means that the above advice applies in all states and
territories.

See also the current advice from VicRoads, as published in the latest issue of Trackwatch.

SO - bottom line Aaron, is that if you NEVER intend to refit your seats. You should go to a nearby approved officer, and get a mod plate - for modified seating capacity. Maye sure you remove the belts as well and fit bolts or blanking plugs to the holes.

As we all know, vehicle standards, or the interpretation does differ from state to state.

I was told by Qld. Transport that as the compliance plate says the 110 is a motor Omnibus of xx seats then permanent removal of the seats would mean the vehicle is out of compliance and a modification plate from an approved person should be fitted. If you then wished to refit the seats then another plate would have to be fitted with the catch that any change in the relevant standards at the time of refitting would need to be observed. It is, however permitted to "temporarily" remove the seats. I have done so.

Here are the exact QLD rules, as given to police and vehicle inspectors:

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/reso...r_vehicles.pdf

It's probably illegal to leave Darryl Summers in your Fender, mate, unless you leave some of the windows down and the temp. inside doesn't hit 40 degrees.

Thank you guys.

I was looking at the brackets that the seats bolt onto, and I wanted to attach a high lift jack to them. Id say that constitutes permanent removal.

It only constitutes permanent removal if you get caught a few times as who can say how long they have been out?

My understanding in NSW is that you can remove the seats but you must retain the seat belts as the vehicle must have a seat belt for all registered seating positions.

Originally Posted by Aaron

I took my rear seats out (110) to install a fire extinguisher and I quite like them out, there isnt enough room in there for anyone, apart from Daryl Summers anyways. Is it legal?

mate i went through this the other day and this was the result at least in qld that is

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/marketplac...cky-seats.html

hope it helps

cheers