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    A few more leaders that have visited:

    Uruguay

    Croatia

    Switzerland
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    That must have been an interesting day!

    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I remember the shocked looks on my Japanese TAFE students when I played "The Pacific Century " videos which showed the Japanese massacres in China , and the medical experiments in Siberia.
    They had no idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Utemad View Post
    As terrible as it is that Japan or any country would try to hide their past we are not entirely different.

    I saw a documentary of Gallipoli where a Turkish soldier was saying that he could see into our trenches or whatever and saw our officers/higher ranks forcing our soldiers to get out of the trenches and go to a certain death. After watching wave after wave getting cut down by machine gun fire they just kept pushing them out. I have read that elsewhere too so it is not entirely blanked out of our history but it is not exactly the heroic/romanticised tales we get told in our history books is it?
    huh?

    what the hell has that got to do with this argument?

    that was the ideology of the first world war... both sides of the war reduced it to one of attrition, the winner was the one with men still standing.. pretty open and well documented facts...
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    Croatia was on the same side as Japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    Croatia was on the same side as Japan.
    And Switzerland was neutral and so was Uruguay until February 1945!

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    Kevin is just a do gooding opportunist....No, I don't like his style and i don't think he stands for anything other than being the 'good guy'.

    Anyway,There are plenty of reasons why an Australian Prime Minister has not been to Hiroshima before and I am sure we could find plenty of international dignitaries who have been there before him.

    Don't forget, the Japanese attacked sydney harbour, did awful things to our POWS, women included, they controlled most of the islands in the Pacific and if it wasn't for America, we would have had a hell of a time keeping them out of Australia.

    The RSL when it was full of returned soldiers from WW2 was a very powerful lobby group right into the 80's .

    Times have changed, which is great, but I am getting tired of seeing k rudd jump on every do good opportunity.

    Ahhh, that feels better.

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