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    Diesel cars more expensive to run


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    That is why all mine are petrol

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    you lot didn't read this, did you ?

    It is only in larger cars, such as soft-roaders and four-wheel-drives, that diesel begins to save families money..............


    ...........Choosing the diesel-powered Nissan Patrol 4WD will save you more than $13,300 over five years, relative to the petrol model........
    but why would you buy a Land Cruiser ??

    The Toyota LandCruiser 4WD, however, is the other way around - the diesel costs nearly $20 a week more to run......

    ......The Toyota LandCruiser turbo diesel 4WD costs $401.53 to run each week and is the most expensive car in Australia to run.

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    Rick a Nissan Diesel is false economy they usually go bang before the 5 years are up then you simply add another 12k to your sums.
    This is assuming that it is the grenade engine??

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    The survey factored in standing costs as well as running costs to get a total cost. This is how fleets arrive at a cost per kilometre. Standing costs are depreciation, registration, insurances,etc. Given that they are talking about new vehicles and the diesel vehicles are more expensive to purchase and accumulate more depreciation by reason of that, then the higher cost is true. If you have bought say an LR Isuzu which has finished depreciating, has virtually no engine repair costs, only oil and filters, and uses half the fuel of a petrol engined equivalent, then the diesel vehicle is cheaper to run.
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    Looking at the figures shows quite clearly where the real costs of running a car are - depreciation and interest. And in most cases the extra cost of a diesel means the increase in these numbers swamps the running cost advantage of diesels.

    No surprise, and the situation gets worse as interest rates increase.

    The obvious solution is to minimise the big numbers - never buy new, and keep it for a long time (and pick your model). If you do this the running cost advantages of a diesel start to show. But these figures show just how small the advantages are of low fuel consumption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    If you have bought say an LR Isuzu which has finished depreciating, has virtually no engine repair costs, only oil and filters, and uses half the fuel of a petrol engined equivalent, then the diesel vehicle is cheaper to run.
    And a gearbag rebuild

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Looking at the figures shows quite clearly where the real costs of running a car are - depreciation and interest. And in most cases the extra cost of a diesel means the increase in these numbers swamps the running cost advantage of diesels.

    John
    That is if you plan on selling it.
    I buy an old one and write it off after purchase.
    It will be stuffed when I get rid of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    That is if you plan on selling it.
    I buy an old one and write it off after purchase.
    It will be stuffed when I get rid of it
    Writing it off does not do anything except put the full purchase cost onto it immediately - and the cost per kilometre keeps going down the longer you keep it, as the number to divide into the cost gets bigger, offset somewhat by the opportunity cost of the capital, which varies only as interest rates change, but is time dependent not mileage dependent.

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    The finance/deprecation stuff is all great but it doesn't answer the question why diesel is so much dearer than petrol when a/ it's a lot cheaper to make then petrol and b/ other countries like NZ have diesel 10% cheaper than petrol so therefore it's not related to global demand. Is this a mining boom thing?

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