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    1 ton/fc101 Tcase wanted

    The new rover has got gearbox problems. so thats coming out, not a problem I have a choice of 3 to replace it with and yes Im going backwards to a Series II gearbox...

    Checking my info Ive found out that the tcase from a 1 tonner, or FC 101 has a lower gear ratio in low box and slightly lower in high. Does anyone know of anyone anywhere thats got the TCase from one of these I can fenurgal.

    Not an Uber critical issue but since Im pulling the gearbox out IF I can get hold of what I want Id rather only have to pull it out once especially since Im putting a PTO onto the tcase.
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    The FC 101 had an LT95 gearbox/transfer case - I think you mean the Series 2b FC, which shared its transfer case with the One Ton. I don't like your chances - One Tons are scarce as hen's teeth here, and 2bs not much more common, although there are a few around that have been converted to other gearbox/TC combinations to go with a more powerful engine - in theory this should mean there are a few unused transfer cases floating round somewhere, unless they have gone to Simms. Maybe Diana has a spare one, seeing she seems to be collecting FCs & bits?

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    That'd be what I ment, Im chasing it for its lower low and slightly lower high range due to the fact that Im going to be raising the vehicles base weight a bit and running the diesel on bio does incur a minor power loss. (yeah I know like the 2.25 series diesel can afford that)
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    The case is just a series transfer case its the gears that are different and they are all orphans. You also need a f/c 1 ton mainshaft as the constant gear is in a different position.

    If I were you I would be looking for a LT230 with 20D prefix, 1.667:1 where the F/C box is only 1.53:1 and the low transfer in a LT230 is actually lower than the F/C box.

    Yes I do have some spare S2B boxes but .....

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    P.S. Low transfer ratio in a S2b/1 ton box is 3.277:1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    If I were you I would be looking for a LT230 with 20D prefix, 1.667:1

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    yeah Ive looked into that but Ive done some rough guesstomathics and the ratio thats in the 1 tonner or 2bFC is pretty much exactly what Im after. Its no honking great loss if I have to use a stock series Tcase but since Im going to have it all out I figured theres no harm in asking....


    I dont really want to go the lt230 option and wouldnt waste an lt95 on this project (kermit maybe) since its a series and I can be bothered converting the front end to CV's and all the other trickery that would need doing to make it work.

    Im after bolt off, clean up, check and bolt on simplicity here, The on board WVO setup that Im scheming up is giving me big enough headaches as is.

    the rough plan will see the rest of the new rover stripped out (seatbox) so I can hoik out the gearbox, degrease the whole thing so I can find/bodge the driveline leaks then change the waterpump on the diesel, drop that in after I get back from newcaslte, mate up the gearbox, rat dobbos series for some missing parts plumb in enough of the fuel system to get it running to a registerable state then start the winch and bio mods. its in the realms of ou there but If i dont ask then theres no chance that someones going to read it and send me a pm along the lines of "Dave, sent you a brand new fully reworked IIA manual transmission with a 1 tonner transfer case it should be arriving via AirExpress tomorrow"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    I'll have a pet unicorn while your at it

    Only in pom land with 4 pot petrol's
    That would be like saying that lightweights are only available in the U.K.

    You may have heard of a thing called airfreight, takes a couple of days and delivery can sometimes be quicker than Australia Post between capital cities. And you are only needing the gearset not the whole transmission.

    Dave

    How much road work will this vehicle be doing and what sort of diffs/tyres will it be running on?

    The reason is that the F/C's and 1 Tons are revving their ring out to do much over 80KPH and they are on 36" tyres.

    Have you spoken to Taz with the 101 and S2b up in BrisVegas? He has a few contacts apart from his own.

    If you are still convinced that's what you want and can't find something close to home, I would have to sort through my collection to see what I am willing to part with before I could commit to anything. I have 2 complete transmissions out of vehicles and up to 2 more in pieces but I also have 3 S2Bs only one of them with an original transmission.

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    Id be running the stock rubber and diffs, and since its not ment for primarily high speed or highway duties then going over 80 isnt a problem Im in no hurry.

    IF youve got to go through your collection to work out what you're willing to part with then (and no offence) I dont want to ask you for anything. Primarily because if your anything like me you'll have your gear sorted into 3 rough piles

    (pretending you own a IIA)

    the first is always the "this is what my gear runs these are the parts I will never get rid of" (IE your spare IIA suffix D gearbox and Tcase)

    the second is "this is my pile of next door to scrap/ similar parts to get me or my friends out of trouble in a pinch part" (a spare series III gearbox and tcase)

    and the third usually is "this is stuff that I have aquired in the process of getting my other stuff and have no predicted use for it but may be able to bater it off for what I do need" or "the pile of junk that one day may become usefull if I aquire something that uses this gear" (for some reason youve gotten your hands on an r380)


    If you dont already know that you cant afford to part with it then you probably have a use for it and unless that use is "sell off for $$$" then you have a better reason for needing it than me.
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    Dave

    It's more a case of what I want to send with the 3rd vehicle I'm planning to sell.

    It is about 90% complete and I intended to sell it with a spare F/C transmission.

    I want to keep a spare for the S2B that I'm keeping (currently regular box) and not converting to LT230. That leaves another 2 boxes which are in pieces. I know that at least 1 has a missing tooth off the intermediate gear and the other one had the bell housing taken off to fit on a Series 3 box. What I don't know is if amongst those 2 boxes there is a complete set of usable gears.

    One would hardly want to offer someone a box that had gears with missing teeth.

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    With you now... All Im after is the Tcase and input gear not the whole trans, I have my choice of 3 gearboxes in workable order right here.

    Unless Im totally off The tcases for all sereis II IIA and III's are interchangeable. I knew there was a lower ratio set and some minor adjustments to be made to get the 1 tonner setup correct on some of the different boxes but I thought that was only a case of the shimming distance for the Tcase input gear But I have to rego that anyway as Im fitting a PTO....

    If Im off now would be an ideal time to find out.
    Dave

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