Thread: On a serious note

Originally Posted by maggsie

Why did they select the 2.4 Puma?

Because it will run on crappy diesel where as the TDV6 will not.

Whats so good about the tojo V8?.4.5LT turbo with 150kw.Big deal,you can get that with a chipped 2.5lt td5.There is more to a vehicle than a big engine. Pat

True, but there is also much more to an engine than a kw figure. No doubt you can also chip the Toy TDV8.

Interestingly, when the Nissan 3.0TD was released and in competition with the 4.2TD and they were both putting out the same power figures, what they were finding was that the 4.2TD delivered the good a lot better down low. It seems the 4.2 also was a more durable motor, though in that case also used more fuel and made too much pollution.

Its all of the same reasons why the Isuzu diesel is so liked over the Tdi.

Originally Posted by numpty

Exactly, and old fashioned big bore lumps, whether you like them or not, do not cut the mustard anymore.

As for LR only putting in small engines, the big market is Europe for them and tax laws demand them. An engine strictly for Australia's small numbers will never happen.

Well said, and exactly right....

Australians are also very slow to adopt modern technology, hence the 'luddite' mentality..

Very few vehicles are stranded ever by electronics, its still mechanical failure which brings them unstuck.

Originally Posted by maggsie

Landrover had the perfect opportunity to put the 2.7 V6 in the new Defender. Why did they select the 2.4 Puma?

Maggsie

There isnt enough room between the rails...

When it boils down, you shouldn't have to plan an overtaking maneuver for kilometers in advance in a modern 4wd. Wash my mouth out but Nissans and Toymotors cruise past with no effort towing a 40 foot van while the small bore landy diesels are screaming their lungs out trying to pass on a slight uphill gradient. Much as i love em they are not the most suited to comfortable and effortless long haul driving. Bring back the v8 petrol motors and watch the sales increase.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Yep I agree. You can still have big bore engines or high pressure turbos and still be ADR complient. Toyota do this well with their TDV8. Also, and interestingly... a smaller engine doesn't necessarily mean that it will be more economical either.

Mate, Toyota dont do it well, that V8 is a grenade...

Is suffering bearing issues, oil pressure issues, turbo issues...

Toyota only do Marketing well...

Originally Posted by Mick-Kelly

When it boils down, you shouldn't have to plan an overtaking maneuver for kilometers in advance in a modern 4wd. Wash my mouth out but Nissans and Toymotors cruise past with no effort towing a 40 foot van while the small bore landy diesels are screaming their lungs out trying to pass on a slight uphill gradient. Much as i love em they are not the most suited to comfortable and effortless long haul driving. Bring back the v8 petrol motors and watch the sales increase.

You gotta be kidding..

The fastest overtaking ones are Prado and Tritons...

The big Cruisers/Patrols are not fast on pick up at all...

Its the hi BEMP engines overtaking quickly...

In the TD5 I've overtaken towing 2 tonne on the back as a big cruiser struggled up the same hill with a camper on the hitch...

The best towing 4wd I've seen is my mates Turbo Diesel Grand Cherokee..

That thing sounds like a petrol, accelerates like a V8, drinks like a diesel and tows his van like its not even there...

Wouldnt be flash offroad though, they're low in stock form..