Thread: Plane crash near Moorabbin Airport

What I found 'amusing' (well not amusing but you will get what I mean) is the people who live right next door to the airport/airfield .........including young couples, who would have only been there for - I dunno - less than 10 years.........wingeing about the planes flying over.

The airport/airfield was there before they moved into their houses which are cheaper than other places.............because they are near the airport/airfield.

Did they expect the place to get less traffic, or to quieten down.....

We had the same in the UK near Heathrow (LHR), one of the worlds busiest (Ron Spelling Please) airports/hubs....the houses near LHR are at least 20% less expensive than those just out of the flightpath/earshot. People buy the places because they are cheaper, then winge about the noise.

To a degree it doesn't really matter (okay I guess the averages may be higher) where you live, near or far from an airport, planes crash and do land on buildings - Lockerbie, Amsterdam just two examples

Sorry Rant over

I used to be a member of the Sydney Society of Model Engineers SSME Online. We bought 25 acres in the bush many years ago and moved the club from Ashfield to Luddenham.

About 15 or so years ago, it stared getting built up around there so the complaints started coming in about the noise of model engines used in boats, cars, and planes. Gahhhh!!

Originally Posted by ladas

What I found 'amusing' (well not amusing but you will get what I mean) is the people who live right next door to the airport/airfield .........including young couples, who would have only been there for - I dunno - less than 10 years.........wingeing about the planes flying over.

The airport/airfield was there before they moved into their houses which are cheaper than other places.............because they are near the airport/airfield.

Did they expect the place to get less traffic, or to quieten down.....

We had the same in the UK near Heathrow (LHR), one of the worlds busiest (Ron Spelling Please) airports/hubs....the houses near LHR are at least 20% less expensive than those just out of the flightpath/earshot. People buy the places because they are cheaper, then winge about the noise.

To a degree it doesn't really matter (okay I guess the averages may be higher) where you live, near or far from an airport, planes crash and do land on buildings - Lockerbie, Amsterdam just two examples

Sorry Rant over

It seems to be a problem in many areas. We have our aerobatic practice days out a Watts Bridge Airfield, and we were continuously getting complaints from the farmer down the road, and several other people that have recently built on land nearby. They were complaining that we were doing our "stunts" over their house, when in reality we are about 1km away.
The farmer said he didn't even know there was an airfield their when he bought the land. The airfield has been there since WW2.

Originally Posted by ladas

What I found 'amusing' (well not amusing but you will get what I mean) is the people who live right next door to the airport/airfield .........including young couples, who would have only been there for - I dunno - less than 10 years.........wingeing about the planes flying over.

The airport/airfield was there before they moved into their houses which are cheaper than other places.............because they are near the airport/airfield.

Did they expect the place to get less traffic, or to quieten down.....

We had the same in the UK near Heathrow (LHR), one of the worlds busiest (Ron Spelling Please) airports/hubs....the houses near LHR are at least 20% less expensive than those just out of the flightpath/earshot. People buy the places because they are cheaper, then winge about the noise.

To a degree it doesn't really matter (okay I guess the averages may be higher) where you live, near or far from an airport, planes crash and do land on buildings - Lockerbie, Amsterdam just two examples

Sorry Rant over

Reasonable rant Ladas - I have been here 16 years and, whilst the air traffic has increased dramatically in the last few years , the airport was here a long time before me.

This problem arrises in many areas - Essendon, Sydney, Adelaide etc..(anywhere housing and airports are close!)

I won't be complaining too much I make a living out of aviation (Makes you look up more often though)

same as you sleepy,
i used to live near moorabbin, and worked there, for many years, had a big arguement with some friends years ago who had lived in the area all their lives, when they wanted to move and sell their house they created a monster anti airport rally, i got right up them, they were only trying to increase the house sale price for a home they bought in the wrong street, having grown up two streets away - hippocrites.

as for the poor indian chap who lost his life, tragic.
mid air's are very rare as are aircraft accidents in general.
where it came down is a well established residential area, but the airport was there first.
as a matter of fact moorabbin airport opened on the 17th of december 1949.
so if your house was there before that you may have a genuine complaint.
however the airport site was chosen because of it's isolated location in a farming area consisting mainly of market gardens, for many years the groundsmen were able to gather vegetables growing on airport land.

now it's got a bloody coke factory in the middle of it!!

I'm not too sure how long the airport has been there - but it would almost certainly at least go back to WW2. And when I first moved to Melbourne in 1971 it was one of the busiest airports in the world. And there were hardly any houses round it then.

As far as safety goes, initial flying training is one of the safest areas of aviation - this is the first case I have heard of in forty-two years of holding a licence that I have heard of a fatality in a first solo flight. And I can only think of one other midair at a major GA airport (Bankstown), which was during a test flight. It is worth noting that the collision involved one high wing and one low wing aircraft - in other words, there was a mutual blind area.

But the basic problem is not confined to airports - we are repeatedly seeing cases of people moving into rural areas to live, and then trying to stop pre-existing activities, typically farming of various kinds that were there previously, often for generations. I saw one example of this even when living in Melbourne. Close to where we lived was a meatworks, which had been there since the area was open paddocks. When I moved to the area, it had become increasingly "built in", and these new residents became increasingly vocal about the noise and smell from the stock yards and animal transport trucks. And they finally managed to get the council to shut it down. (I was not involved - I was far enough away that I had not even noticed the meatworks was there until the fuss started, despite it being only three or four blocks away, so the problem was not even very widespread, and would only really have seriously affected a few dozen houses)

John

The problem lies with councils and other such authorities for allowing development too close to existing airport facilities.

A buffer zone should have been preserved around Moorabbin A/P, but of course, due to pressure from developers, it has gone over the years.

The same thing has happened at Essendon A/P - let's hope that Tullamarine is allowed to keep its buffer zone!

Cheers,

Lionel

It always amuses me the way people complain about the noise from airports, especially major airports ie S(KS)A, Tulla etc. While there may be more movements aircraft HAVE become quieter.

Maybe they should have experienced 707s, VC10s (hushpower ?) DC9s F28s etc. now they were noisy.


Martyn
(who used to sleep ~350m from 16R at Sydney in a demountable bldg)