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    What is the difference RRC and a Disco

    Guys
    I have just been on my first trip in my new old Disco.

    Always had RRC's and still love them just that this oe came up and I grabbed it.

    94 V8 ES etc.

    To be honest I really don't know what the difference is, is it wheel base, weight, strength or what makes one better?
    Just personnal tastes?

    I must say that I find the ride in rangies much smoother given standard suspension.

    I also found off-road the Rangie was better.
    Is my mind playing games or has mad cow taken over?

    Are the Discos made cheaper and how so.

    Who has the answer for this.

    Could it just be my imagination?



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    chassis are the same in the D1's and the running gear is the same as well ..... ford come up with the poor mans rangie and called it a disco .

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    Well I suppose there would be some differences, nuances, given perhaps slightly different weight distribution along the chassis, different mass of the body shell etc giving a different "feel", but otherwise...I think imagination might be the culprit.

    My D1 didn't feel particularly different from the RR I drove...but I know the D2 feels like it has a big butt by comparison, but I like the extra room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    chassis are the same in the D1's and the running gear is the same as well ..... ford come up with the poor mans rangie and called it a disco .
    Ford???? What has Ford got to do with it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by LOVEMYRANGIE View Post
    Ford???? What has Ford got to do with it??
    I thought ford designed the disco body ????

    Also looking at all the small bits on the disco, a lot of it has GM printed on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    I thought ford designed the disco body ????

    Also looking at all the small bits on the disco, a lot of it has GM printed on it
    The Disco design came off the drawing board in the mid 1980s and by 1987 they had a prototype (photos shown to the Range Rover Club courtesy of Richard Asquith). So well before Ford purchased the marque, before even BMW in fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    I thought ford designed the disco body ????

    Also looking at all the small bits on the disco, a lot of it has GM printed on it

    Rover survived the break-up of British Leyland and sell-off into private ownership. It was sold first to British Aerospace (1988) and then to BMW (1994). In 2000 BMW sold most of its activities of the Rover Group to the Phoenix Consortium who established it as the MG Rover Group.
    BMW retained ownership of the Rovername allowing MG Rover to use it under licence.
    BMW sold the Rover brand name to Ford in September 2006 for approximately £6 million. Ford wanted it to protect their Land Rover brand purchased from BMW in 2000.
    In March 2008, Ford sold the Jaguar Land Rover operations to Tata.

    There is also involvements in between with 20% contra ownerships with Honda which started in 1979 and lasted through most of the 1980's.

    But in the Land Rover nutshell, British Aerospace was the owner when the Disco was born.
    BMW bought it in 1994 who in turn sold it to Ford in 2000 and now its being designed to run on an extra hot Vindaloo and may even come with a special deal for your home phone line if you ask the right questions at the dealer!!


    As for the original question on the difference between a classic and Disco's, most of the coachwork although there are common parts and things like door shells and floorpan are the same. Look at the A and B pillars on a RRC and D1 & 2.
    Chassis is basically the same except for suspension mounts (airbag v coils) and some steering rods. I do believe a Classic body will basically bolt straight on to a Disco chassis and vice versa, but the reasoning really isnt there.
    Later Classics also had Wabco braking system and B/W viscous transfer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fusion View Post
    ford come up with the poor mans rangie and called it a disco .
    Had nothing to do with Ford - discos were developed in the late 80s (first released in 1989 or 90 in the UK I think). Honda had major input into the updates (all the instruments are honda and the D1 update was sold in Japan as a Honda)

    Honda was a major part owner before BMW - came out of the relationship with Honda and Rover in the 80s - remember those Rover badged Hondas.

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    this'll put the cat amongst the pigeons

    When I was shopping for a RRC a very Knowledgeable person pointed out to me that the D1 was actually what the RRC should have remained or become (considering practical use and off-roading). The D1 continued to retain the LT230 +CDL instead of going with the "advanced" BWTC+VC and it had the option of the tdi series of engines. In effect by buying a D1 you were buying a 5-10year younger vehicle for hardly, if any, more money than a good RRC.

    I got a '98 D1 tdi auto for much le$$ than a retro-fitted tdi into RRC would have cost.

    just a point-of view - Laurie

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