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    Petrol price in Sandland

    A friend has gone to Saudi Arabia on a two year contract as a nurse educator. He has e-mailed me to tell me the price of petrol. Premium is A$4.05 for 20 litres and Regular is A$3.04 for 20 litres.

    He says the locals are terrifying drivers. Drive very fast and do things like ignoring the flashing red lights at the nearby level crossing unless the train is virtually on top of them. Insh'allah.
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    I don't suppose the locals are earning an average wage like ours though.
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    It's very similar prices back home , although the gov has now rationed off the fuel because a lot of people driving their own cars as Taxis after hours to supplement their income due to crap wages and high cost of living. so now you get x-amount of litres per week at rediculously low prices. and then if you run out ......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm View Post
    A friend has gone to Saudi Arabia on a two year contract as a nurse educator. He has e-mailed me to tell me the price of petrol. Premium is A$4.05 for 20 litres and Regular is A$3.04 for 20 litres.

    He says the locals are terrifying drivers. Drive very fast and do things like ignoring the flashing red lights at the nearby level crossing unless the train is virtually on top of them. Insh'allah.

    T'was wondering whether, if I sent him the money, could he buy me some and ship it to me.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobHay View Post
    T'was wondering whether, if I sent him the money, could he buy me some and ship it to me.......
    By air-mail on Ethiad or Gulf Air I suppose?

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    My in laws just got back for a tour of Iran - I'm sure they said diesel something like 2c a litre and petrol 4c a litre.
    However there's long queues coz they don't have the refining capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waynep View Post
    My in laws just got back for a tour of Iran - I'm sure they said diesel something like 2c a litre and petrol 4c a litre.
    However there's long queues coz they don't have the refining capacity.

    Historically Iran has never been able to achieve self-sufficiency with gasoline, they started importing 438,000 litres of gasoline a dayback in 1982, and imports showed steady growth until 1993,but a sluggish rise in 1997-1998 period following operation of Bandar Abbas refinery. Iran’s oil consumption totaled 1.6 million bbl/d in 2006. The Iranian
    government heavily subsidizes the price of refined oil products which has contributed to increased domestic demand.

    Iran has always had limited refinery capacity to produce light fuels, and imported much of its gasoline supply,domestic oil demand is mainly for gasoline and automotive gas oils,but domestic demand for other oil products are declining due to thesubstitution of natural gas. However, it is an overall net petroleum products exporter due to large exports of residual fuel oil.
    Oil export revenues represent the majority of Iran’s total exports earnings, but the country suffers from budget deficits
    due to a growing population and large government subsidies on gasoline and food products.

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    You guys do understand that the price of oil has a tax component inserted by OPEC on exports by reducing production compared with demand. The recent high demand has meant that they have been more successful than usual. Domestically most subsidise fuel as a public benefit. AFAIK this is true of Saudi, Bahrain, Kuwait, UAE, and Qatar.

    Why are you surprised that fuel is cheap in Saudi Arabia? Water is also under production cost.
    Diesel cars are banned there too, and I think in UAE.
    There is also this chime that goes off when you touch 130Kmh and drives you nuts.
    You also have to stop work 5 times a day for prayers.

    Its only Western Governments who make fuel expensive as a policy decision, in Europe's case to save foreign exchange, and Australia as a cash cow because when it was cheap nobody cared about the 48cents tax, and the Feds are so stupid they do not have any other ideas.

    Its only now when NSW is desperate that they have increased the coal royalty when foreign firms have been creaming it for years.
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    I would have thought that OPEC would have a say in the local price of fuel in oil producing countries ? If we had enough oil production i'm we wouldnt be able to buy it for anywhere near the price they can ?
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    You have to remember that all of the OPEC Middle east countries are dictatorships. The rulers dole out largesse at "Majlis". There are no elections ANYWHERE. corruption is rife. All "concessions" such as the right to air freight are seized by the royal family. eg DHL.

    For example in Saudi when I was there in 1985-87, The ruler gave out 5000 or so Toyota utes to the Bedou to keep them on side.
    King Fahd and probably now King abdullah, marries daughters of clan/bedou chiefs to bind them to him.

    The above is to show you how different life is in these countries, and that you cannot use Australian eyes in judging their actions.
    ADAIK, OPEC have no control of domestic prices. In any case OPEC IS the Foreign or oil mininsters of each country.
    Oil prices are a result of nationalised oil industries setting an export price where they have a monopoly ( or majority world production) of the product.

    ARAMCO is the Saudi company which was the result of nationalising EXXON AFAIR. EXXON even built a complete US style town near Dammam for the employees. By the way Osama Bin Laden's dad worked for ARAMCO and was given his first big construction job to build the TAP (Trans Arabian Pipeline).

    In Australia our policies were designed to encourage oil exploration. Even now australia has not been thoroughly explored sometimes for stupid reasons such as we cannot have ugly rigs in the Barrier reef.

    Now one of our PMs long ago ( McMahon?) also made a deal with the oil companies that Australia would get oil at $2.40 a barrel for 20years. After that deal expired in about 1990 , Australia went to export parity pricing. So we had cheap fuel for many years.

    BUT Australia COULD have petrol for 20cents or whatever a litre, however it is not seen as sound policy. We could nationalise the oil companies But I dare to say that foreign investment would stop. Just do the sums and without the excise petrol would be say 111C ( last night sydney) - 48c -NSW 6c = 57C. Even under the current system of Singapore parity pricing.
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