Thread: 109, 110 and County - How many seats for Rego?

You will find you have to do it all again next year with the RTA.

Mine is listed as a 10 seater, although only has seats and belts for five. I'm planning to put centre middle back in real soon now, and maybe a pair of forward facing in the back, making it into an eight seater.

I took a look at the rego and the body shape is listed as a PVW. The only link I could find for codes was this -
http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...ds/vib4201.pdf

which doesn't go up to PVW, PV equals panel van, so maybe panel van wagon.

Cheers
Simon

When I went to change the rego on my county from nsw to qld, the inspector insisted it was a nine seater although it only has 5 seats. It was registered in nsw as a five seater, said on the nsw registration document it was a five seater but the the lady inspector said " No, it's says here it's a nine seater "
So when she inspected the five seats and seatbelts, she said the other four seats were the metal rear wheel arches but I couldn't use them as there were no seatbelts !! (So how had it been registered before as a nine seater ??)She also said it wasn't a county but a troopcarrier.
She then insisted if I wanted to use it I would have to fit seatbelts to the wheelarches and then take it back for another inspection.
After about 2 hours of this nonsense I spoke to another inspector, he said much the same as the other one.I then spoke to another who agreed with me, that if I went and had a mod plate fitted stating that it was a five seater, then I could register the vehicle no problem. The vehicle already has a mod plate fitted because the front seats were changed for Honda Accord ones, but whoever fitted this mod plate didn't say how many seats were fitted !!
So after I spent $105.00 on another mod plate, I returned to register the vehicle, must have been my lucky day as the lady was really nice and pleasant,she couldn't understand why ?? it had to be done, but passed it all with flying colours and gave me new plates

I'm wondering if my earlier problems were started by the fact that said inspector was slightly overweight, had to perch on a wobbly stool to even see under the bonnet and couldn't find the engine number !!!

Originally Posted by jerryd

When I went to change the rego on my county from nsw to qld, the inspector insisted it was a nine seater although it only has 5 seats. It was registered in nsw as a five seater, said on the nsw registration document it was a five seater but the the lady inspector said " No, it's says here it's a nine seater "
So when she inspected the five seats and seatbelts, she said the other four seats were the metal rear wheel arches but I couldn't use them as there were no seatbelts !! (So how had it been registered before as a nine seater ??)She also said it wasn't a county but a troopcarrier.
She then insisted if I wanted to use it I would have to fit seatbelts to the wheelarches and then take it back for another inspection.
After about 2 hours of this nonsense I spoke to another inspector, he said much the same as the other one.I then spoke to another who agreed with me, that if I went and had a mod plate fitted stating that it was a five seater, then I could register the vehicle no problem. The vehicle already has a mod plate fitted because the front seats were changed for Honda Accord ones, but whoever fitted this mod plate didn't say how many seats were fitted !!
So after I spent $105.00 on another mod plate, I returned to register the vehicle, must have been my lucky day as the lady was really nice and pleasant,she couldn't understand why ?? it had to be done, but passed it all with flying colours and gave me new plates

I'm wondering if my earlier problems were started by the fact that said inspector was slightly overweight, had to perch on a wobbly stool to even see under the bonnet and couldn't find the engine number !!!

Unfortunately they were right because of the silly QLD rules (see the link I posted on the first page). Your compliance plate probably says 9 seater omnibus. In QLD if you PERMANENTLY remove seats you need a mod plate...

For whatever reason, mine has been reg'd as a "PVF" since before I got it, with no changes to the compliance plate or extra plate fitted. I have the wheel arch seats temporarily removed though...

Is rego cheaper for a "PVF" ???

Laurie

Might be worth noting that having fitted captive nuts for the two 1/4" bolts holding the rear seats in, it takes me about five minutes to remove or replace them. Am I expected to get it plated every time I do this?

Landrovers are certainly not the only vehicle in this position - for example seats are readily removable from many people movers.

John

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Might be worth noting that having fitted captive nuts for the two 1/4" bolts holding the rear seats in, it takes me about five minutes to remove or replace them. Am I expected to get it plated every time I do this?

If I have understood what I read from isuzurover's link it doesn't matter if you temporarily remove seats provided the capability remains to re-install them. The seating capacity of the vehicle is not changed by how many seats are in it at a particular time. However at rego inspection time all the seats must be present and correct to demonstrate you have not modified the vehicle.
It seems the police can still defect your vehicle, should they feel so inclined, if it is being driven around with fewer (or more) seats than stated on the rego. I've no idea what the consequences of that would be. Anyone?

Originally Posted by DiscoDave

<snip> I've no idea what the consequences of that would be. Anyone?

In NSW if you get a Defect Notice you have to repair the defect at an authorised place, get them to sign off on it, take the notice back to RTA and get them to clear it. Fines follow if you don't comply.

Cheers
Simon