Cynical Moi?
Originally Posted by DoubleChevron
Yeah, they make it so easy we all want to follow the rules. I'll tell you a story someday about trying to get approval for our house extension. If you can avoid dealing the council ..... Do it .... take the risk. If they weren't so hard to deal with, more poeple would do the right thing. You would think any sort of building on rural acreage with no overlays, not vegetation removal, no fire issues, no native flaura of fauna, not easements..... would be simple right ? You just pick your bit of grass across the acreage and start building .... Yeah rightI was also concerned as none of the shedding here has permit.... so what if they "decided" the shed I was building next to required a permit ... or to come down as well
(don't laugh, this is the council we are talking about, they can do anything they feel like). When we purchased the house about 10years ago, we had to sign something saying we are accepting liability for existing shedding (or something similar to that) as it has no permits. a couple of the old sheds look like they were build with already ancient/used materials 30years ago.
Either way, I've contacted a few places and as soon as they see what I'm planning they say "oh our software doesn't deal with skillions". I'm guessing I'll need a proper engineer that actually knows what they are looking at rather than a shed company that must use software that does any checks and balances. I think I'll just change it to be a normal 12 x 12 gable so engineering is simple. The purlin brackets mob so they can do engineering for a 4.1 meter walls with 5meter gable which means I'll still be able to use all the same materials that are already here. I spent a fortune buying new cladding for this shed and the house roof. So it will look "brand new" an not an eyesore to the neighbours.
with regards to the floor. That will come later, it'll just have gravel put down for now. A floor is big money ... a lot more than I have to spend!
I can relate to that DC as we have two massive sheds joined together, ie. no wall so in theory one very big shed, one end was a Stable for the myriads of Draft horses that were used on this place with a bagged Onion storage area( Mezzanine) over the top & the other was a Veggie wash down area with a huge poured in situ concrete trough which includes "Workshop/Machinery Storage" with a concrete floor, (the first shed has a red brick on edge stable Floor that has been covered by soil. Both built at a guess, a century ago, 14" stringy posts & off saw rails & roofing timbers. Both have very high door openings to enable the "loaded to the roof" old drays to go down to the Produce Market
to pass through.
I could just about guarantee that Council & Planning were never a requirement back then, but if I wished to replace one of them I would have to go through the same rigamarole as you are at present.
ForumSage
SupporterThe shed sounds nice and high so you should be able to fit a car hoist in, which is always handy. Obviously when you get the concrete floor, I wouldn't try a dirt mounted hoist even digging a pit/trench for under vehicle can be dangerous, heavier than air gasses and such which is why they are not allowed nowadays.
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YarnMaster
SupporterYeah that's my plan .... eventually .... maybe when I retired I'll have the money to do it..... Even if at some point in the next 5years I can get the front half in concrete, that'll give me a good work area and somewhere to mount a hoist (yes, that's my other reason for wanting height). the back half will be storage as I'll have the height to fit caravans in there. So I'll probably end up with my caravan, my parents caravan and the trailers in the back half.
The shed isn't very big, its a 12 x 7.5 at the moment. The wall height is really low. It does have a floor, but its thin and sweats moisture all winter. The leanto on the otherside of the shed is only high enough for cars. it usually just has 3 cars parked in it (its 6meters wide, but I've "stolen" some space under it and enclosed it for work benches etc....). In the existing shed "sort of" lined a 4 x 7 meter section of with the intentions of making a paint booth a few years back. I've ended up making up some swing out doors for this and throwing some insulation in and using it as a home office ( covid ... kids home etc...). There is also 3 x 4 dodgy lined office beside this. My wife has taken this over while the kids are home. So basically half the 12 x 7.5 existing shed is office space (though my zoom backdrop is an old car which is often a talking point).
The 12 x 12 extension should give me a nice work area, and the existing shed can be used for parking the cars that are driven each day (well that's the plan either way!).
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
Cynical Moi?
Fair go, indoors may have wanted to have e few Clothes Drying Lines in there instead.
Master
SupporterLet the planning begin!
Just put a deposit down on a 6,000 square metre block in Bendigo.
Shed time!
YarnMaster
SupporterI hope your council doesn't suck like ours. I'm still waiting to hear anything from ours. The only way to get any action from the useless lumps of excrement here is to ignore them and just proceed without approval. THEN you wlll hear from them in a prompt fashion
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
Cynical Moi?
Thought bubble.
Why not cover the whole block in shedding? Probably would need an Aircraft Hangar but as you probably won't need another in your lifetime you should really make it a worthwhile effort.
TiC
YarnMaster
Supporterthat's about 1 acre isnt' it ?? bloody good sized block for a decent house, BIG shed and decent drive access so you can get to the big shed while towing caravans/trailers .... but not so much land you are forever cutting grassThought bubble.
Why not cover the whole block in shedding? Probably would need an Aircraft Hangar but as you probably won't need another in your lifetime you should really make it a worthwhile effort.
TiC
Proper cars--
'92 Range Rover 3.8V8 ... 5spd manual
'85 Series II CX2500 GTi Turbo I :burnrubber:
'63 ID19 x 2 :wheelchair:
'72 DS21 ie 5spd pallas
Modern Junk:
'07 Poogoe 407 HDi 6spd manual :zzz:
'11 Poogoe RCZ HDI 6spd manual
Master
SupporterAbout 1.5 acres. My other half loves her gardening so will be doing lots of planting. Heaps of room for both our hobbies.that's about 1 acre isnt' it ?? bloody good sized block for a decent house, BIG shed and decent drive access so you can get to the big shed while towing caravans/trailers .... but not so much land you are forever cutting grass
Cynical Moi?
And guess who will constantly be asked to fill the 5 litre spray bottle with Glyphosate & ****.
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