Thread: Hoon caught doing 170 in 100 zone.

Originally Posted by Tombie2

Ponder this one.....

Whats worse? (In your opinion)

170km/h in a 100km/h Zone?
or
95km/h in a 60km/h zone?
or
50km/h in a ROAD WORKS zone?

I sit back to see this with interest... This is not a trick question, rather a perception question....
Now back to the 170km/h one...
What is it about speed that everyone goes Ooh... No.. About?
Is 170km/h fast? Or is our driver training inadequate for those speeds?
Are our roads capable of it? Is a modern car safe at those speeds?
Whats worse? Fatigue over 4 hours at 110km/h or fatigue over 3.25 hours at 130km/h
You can imagine this goes around and around.....

Me, personally, although I havent done it for a long time...
I dont consider 200+ km/h fast - On the right surface, with good visibility all around (particularly oncoming) in the right automobile (a Landy doesnt meet this, Well a RRS might).

Many a time I crossed the Hay Plain at over $2.20 & I've
Done Perth --> Adelaide in 26 straight hours SOLO (you do the math) - No drugs were used either...

Better roads, better driver eduction, and lets remind all the morons out there.. A Drivers Licence is a Priveledge not a RIGHT... If you can't meet the requirement - You dont get a licence.....



Can you tell I'm bored at work tonight ?????

They are all bad if done in an inapropriate way or area or by an incompetent person or while doing so you come across a person of a lesser ability and this is how road crashes occur (not accidents by any means).
Your own personal ability counts for absolutely nothing with a lot of other variables in play. Yes you will get away with it 99% of the time. Its the 1% that concerns me. And yes I have done some stupid things, but having seeing more and more of the results when the unexpected happen I have changed my methodology.
This is why we have road rules, so every one can generally get from point A to point B in a relativelly safe manner if we all play by the same rules. Arrogance leads people to think they do not have to ply by the same rules or are exempt and in turn this leads to them or others they intertwine with becoming statistics.
Food for thought.

Lift the country speed limit to 160 kmh on A grade country roads(freeway type dual lane etc). 100-110 kmh is dangerous over long distances, as there is lack of concentration needed to drive at this speed( you can have a cup of tea and play a game of monopoly).
In England you can drive on an 'A' class road past the police doing 150 kmh and they have the discretion to book you or not. This is based upon driving conditions i.e. if it is a fine sunny day with no wind and little traffic, you can go faster. If it is raining with congested traffic on the same piece of road, you should going much slower....to suit the conditions.
Doing 100 in a school zone is stupid, doing 140 on an open country road with no other traffic hurts nobody
Speed doesn't kill. Drivers who go beyond their car and own limits do.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I think that just because someone is in no hurry (half their luck!) irrespective of who they are, that it isn't an excuse to hold up the traffic. Its just plain rude and frustrating for other road users and encourages less safe practices such as overtaking.

So the red "P" plater should be doing 120kph just so he doesn't hold YOU up.

We have to accept that there are all skill levels, different vehicles etc on the road that may not be able to move at a pace that does not impede traffic at some point.

Personally I don't think it would have been appropriate for this to be doing 100kph along the Golden Highway, and it did impede us along the way




Martyn

Originally Posted by Bushie

So the red "P" plater should be doing 120kph just so he doesn't hold YOU up.

We have to accept that there are all skill levels, different vehicles etc on the road that may not be able to move at a pace that does not impede traffic at some point.

Personally I don't think it would have been appropriate for this to be doing 100kph along the Golden Highway, and it did impede us along the way


Martyn

Jeez Bushie, thats an old thread you've pulled up.

A P-plater is limited, the truck pictured is probably incapable of reaching 100km/h and I'm not particularly fussed if behind a truck that cant do the limit because it is what it is.

A vehicle travelling at 80km/h on the highway because they are blissfully unaware, or are in no particular rush or a trying to save 0.5l/100km are rude, inconsiderate and a royal PITA. If a driver is incapable within himself or herself to drive at the posted limit in appropriate conditions then they shouldn't be on the road.

Here is my quote again as it hasnt been properly interpreted:

I think that just because someone is in no hurry (half their luck!) irrespective of who they are, that it isn't an excuse to hold up the traffic. Its just plain rude and frustrating for other road users and encourages less safe practices such as overtaking.

You're right it is an old post that I've just spent probably half an hour trawling through, but you have to blame the post ahead of mine for putting it back on the list .

Still stand by my argument that not everyone wants, or needs to be sitting on the speed limit. If there are passing opportunities and they don't actively prevent (as in Tombies side by side example) traffic from passing, then so be it.


Martyn

Originally Posted by drivesafe

The law aside and not trying to justify his behaviour but, as speeding is a contributing factor in only 5% of all accidents, why are cops or more fairly, the governments taking such a hard line on speeders, confiscating their vehicles while drunks get nothing more than a fine, yet drink driving accounts for 25% of all accidents.

To justify the billions of dollars collected by State and Federal Govts. in the form of Speeding fines, the last figure I read on cause of road death had speeding at 0.8%, (published in Wheels Magazine from ABS).
Point in case, when the speed limit was dropped in urban areas to 40 and 50 klm/h the death rate for road fatalaties (Urban area)rose 12%.
Biggest cause of road death in Australia is "Inattention", Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by Slunnie

I think that just because someone is in no hurry (half their luck!) irrespective of who they are, that it isn't an excuse to hold up the traffic. Its just plain rude and frustrating for other road users and encourages less safe practices such as overtaking.

I'm guessing you're not fond of ending up behind a series landy on the highway Slunnie..