Thread: Hoon caught doing 170 in 100 zone.

Originally Posted by jbarracl

Why did you let Jeff drive, you know he always falls asleep at the wheel.

Doesnt speed though.

it's wasn't to bad with Jeff driving . We had the cruise control on .

Originally Posted by djam1

The NT Govt introduced speed limits a couple of years ago and the road toll went up 40%.

am i the only one who finds that tidbit of information almost as satisfying as sex?

Wow What a thread!

I too hold a National Race Licence and that does not mean I speed everywhere. But with twenty years of Circuit Racing, Motorkahana's, Hill climbs, Sprints etc.. It does teach me how to read a road, a car, the conditions and make a few "judgement" calls on how fast I can go with what level of relative safety for myself, other people on the road and any passengers (if I have any). I do agree it can not give me any insite to a freek ocurance, like a dog or a kid running out onto the road.

I am a VERY firm believer that young drivers should be given offensive yes offensive driving courses and track time should be served as part of a punishment package when they offend like our friend in the begining of this thread did.

I was speaking to Dick Johnson & Peter Brock once and they both agreed that the best way to reduce you people getting killed on our roads is to give them the training.

I do speed but noting like our subject did, I believe that going at super high speeds in a straight line is not that much of a challenge and dangerous in the wrong place. I do go very fast around corners and accepting the inherant risks involved in that. I do however go very slow in the rain, as anyone that has either raced or spent their lives driving will know just how little traction you actually have in the wet.

I very much pitty the cops they have a very difficult job but I do also believe they cater to the lowest common denominator and treat everyone like criminals when you commit a simple traffic offence. If they were really interested in reducing road tolls, I believe drunk and drug drivers need to get more serious suspensions. Speeding fines could carry higher points but why is there such a high $ figure attached?? The driving tests should be way more complicated and not as terifying. If they taught you how to drive on a skid pan or gravel road we might have some greater skills out there. Why not have every two or five years a driver refresher course with up dates and greater skills to be taught just like industry does for dangerous occupations. I know it's difficult to imagine but what if the cops had the ability to use discrection when they pulled you over? i.e. They could talk to you like they cared for your life and give you some honest advice and if they felt you had taken it on board let you off with a warning that was actually recorded and therefore if they pulled you up again you couldn't just act all inocent and get off.

This is a serious subject and one that raises all sorts of emotions in people. The bottom liine is there are poeple with different skill levels out there, there are cars with different capabilities out there. I trully believe it a personal thing, driving and that's why we all love it so. You will always have youthfull foolishness but if we can harness some of that we mich just keep some of them alive a bit longer.

Sorry about the rave

Cheers,

Originally Posted by Sprint

am i the only one who finds that tidbit of information almost as satisfying as sex?

Best you take a serious look at your sex life maybe ??

yeh nothing like taking a maths book to the shower with you

In light of the evidence in the previous post's such as the area in which this occurred, I am incredibly dissapointed that this 78YO could be so STUPID, if he was going down the eastern freeway with no-one around I may be looking at it differently.

We are getting off topic now, but it really gets my dander up when people issue broad statements that speed and speed alone is the biggest Killer. There are so many other factors to be taken into consideration. Saying that he would of stopped 33% quicker if he had been going slower yada yada is all well and good on a straight road, but in reality, what was the cause of the crash. Was it the pot-hole that wasn't there last week, the bend in the road, the poor tyres on the car, the bad brakes, or the speed. If you take any ONE factor out of the equation the crash may not have happened. Hey if he had been going 0km/h he wouldn't of crashed at all. Oh and why am I allowed to do 65km/h through a 40km/h school zone and keep my license, but if I do 130km/h down the Hume Hwy (110 zone) I will have my car impounded, isn't that the wrong way round

The germans realised a long time ago that speed can be used in a safe and appropriate manner to get somewhere quickly and safely. So they upgraded there road network increased there driver training and enforced some appropriate safety measures such as:
- Autobahn's have an advisory 130km/h limit
- Extra Wide Lanes
- Slow vehicles must keep left without exception
- Trucks limited to 80km/h and left lane only
- Tailgate camera's (why can't we do this here)

Not to mention
- All vehicles must carry safety vests for there occupants
- All vehicles must carry a Fire Extinguisher and First Aid Kit
- In Bumper to Bumper traffic stick to the left of the lane, to allow emergency vehicle access
- If you run out of fuel they will throw the book at you as in there eyes it was avoidable

I was having a discussion with a friend of mine, and were discussing the psycology behind driving.

What would happen if you removed speedo's? Would you slow down or speed up

Stu

Originally Posted by dullbird

yeh nothing like taking a maths book to the shower with you

Hmmmmm, Fibonacci sequence.

Originally Posted by B92 8NW

You'd travel another seven metres in the second between identifying the need to brake, before planting the foot on the brake, doing 120 instead of 100. You'd then need another 25.61 metres before coming to a complete stop. The stopping distance is increased by 33%.

This is assuming it takes you a second to get you foot on the brake I'd be getting my reflexes tested if this was the case and if it isn't then the statistics are all wrong again!

hmmmm,