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Thread: Can the police hide whilst doing speed checks (NSW)?

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    Hiding behind a bush to catch someone speeding isnt entrapment...

    Seriously.... Some of you must win awards for conspiracy theory!!!

    Speeding - Voluntary fine....

    Do I speed, yes, I'm no angel - especially on the bike...

    But the law is what it is.... Like stealing - Did you steal a pack of AA batteries or a Plasma TV? Still stealing isnt it? Same crime, same law....

    What appears to really be said is "I couldnt see him to slow down quickly, so its not fair!!"

    NT speed limits have always been great, but population density, etc is a lot lower than the East Coast etc....

    Put the proportionate amount of road users on the NT roads at the higher speeds and there would have been major numbers of accidents...

    Remember once all highways were open limit in Australia...

    Point is, there IS a law, and if you dont like it, feel free to move to a country where their laws better suit you....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    feel free to move to a country where their laws better suit you....
    i'd just prefer to thin out the population back to sensible levels...... that way its better for the environment, everyone in australia wont have to worry so much about water, there'll be less oxygen thieves and less retards in government! a win-win situation dont you think?

    as for the cops hiding, i frown upon it, if the intent was to slow people down, there would be a visible police presence, that way people would be too scared to speed..... no visible presence means people take the risk......

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Working in the dept of corrective services i note that some people are not so moralistic as i am, i guess that is the same with the old bill.
    maybe i am wrong but i think people in that job should be beyond reproach
    As should be corrective services...but they ain't

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sprint View Post
    as for the cops hiding, i frown upon it, if the intent was to slow people down, there would be a visible police presence, that way people would be too scared to speed..... no visible presence means people take the risk......
    Too scared to speed or or too scared of getting caught? People get their ability mixed up with their ambition. Especially when it comes to motor vehicles. Just because you have a fast car, does not mean you have the skills to drive fast.

    If I speed and get caught, I will blame no one else but me. I won't whinge if the cop steps out from behind a bush to book me. Bottom line, I broke the law.

    If getting to your destination 10 or 15 minutes earlier by way of breaking the law is what gets you through the day, good luck. It's like drink driving - you eventually get caught. Just don't whinge when it happens. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime...

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    Actually that's a bit of a common spot Ron. and they also sit on the other side in the morning as the sun is rising so it is in their eyes and they nab people coming down the hill. And just where the ugg boot shop is they sit in there often. and they are now hiding and I mean hiding in the bushes on woodford bend. they sit in a little cove of trees and wait with 1 bike and one radar man with his car.

    But we have had a lot of that number plate checking thing recently however I thought a vehicle had to be doing 40kmph or under for it to work? And it didn't seem to of found the vehicle with the jan 27 2008 rego that pulled up behind me at a fuel station yesterday. haha.

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    After I got home and looked a the location of the coppers, I doubt I was pinged, I was slowing for the 60km/h zone at that point and the 60km/h zone was still 50+ metres ahead. I was also in the RH lane beside a small truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMKal View Post
    I wish you luck Hillbilly.
    I know in WA they are not allowed to hide them and have also made a statement that they are not to be placed at the bottom of hills. This was a public statement made by the Commissioner of police of WA some time ago. If you can prove either and requst a consideration, you are supposed to have your ticket quashed. Proving it may be a different thing altogether, though I have had a friend have one squashed that was on the bottom of a hill. I believe 400 odd fines were quashed (hill near Northam on bypass). He got done the same week I noticed 2 cameras placed on this hill, one at the bottom and one 1/2 way down. I also complained to the police over this tactic and was assured it was a mistake. Yeah sure it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bblaze View Post
    Dont know where you were driving but have lived in tassie all my life and have often driven from Smithton to Hobart and not even seen a cop car, let alone a camo net speed cam (never seen nor heard of this). Tassie dosnt seem to have some of the rediculous speed limits other states have.
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    they are only a problem if you are speeding (been guilty of it)
    Camo net has been seen and photographed on 2 separate occasions in 2005 and again in 2006 on the Midlands Highway, once at the top of Spring Hill and the second time close to the Telstra exchange up the road (North) from Mood Food.

    Sandy Bay road 2000 - 2001 when I lived @ the Casino, I would walk past one mounted in the back of an unmarked maroon Toyota Camry 3 or 4 times every fortnight.

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    As someone who has had more than the average "liasons", wearing various hats, with the police, I believe they vary little from the rest of the population; ie 10% fundamental orifii/ 90% ok blokes/girls.
    Wearing a truck drivers hat, the majority (particularly in large centres/cities) of coppers range from obnoxious to condecending and rude.
    As an SES volunteer, every cop has been friendly, decent and compassionate.
    In the role of Joe public, complainant; I have experienced varying degrees of professionalism in the investigative stage, but only the highest standard in the reporting phase.
    A mate had a high ranked (Police Officer) relative, who once told me most of the a-holes either get posted or request traffic or watch-house duties.
    Another Inspector opened up a Police-being-trained-by-SES night, by saying that every one had a gripe about a copper, 95% of the population have only ever met a traffic cop. That Senior Seargent over there is in traffic, take your bitching to him!
    My view is that, as the Inspector implied, we (as average citizens) are mostly dealing with the bottom of the barrel. Don't judge the entire service on the action(s) of the pedantic little twerp who just wrote you up. Attitude goes a long way, the copper who pulls you up is not going to feel inclined to let you off with a warning for a minor infringment, if you approach him/her in an aggressive manor. I have got more warnings than tickets with this approach.
    Most coppers are dedicated to society, they are doing a hard job that most of us either cannot or do not want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    As someone who has had more than the average "liasons", wearing various hats, with the police, I believe they vary little from the rest of the population; ie 10% fundamental orifii/ 90% ok blokes/girls.
    Wearing a truck drivers hat, the majority (particularly in large centres/cities) of coppers range from obnoxious to condecending and rude.
    As an SES volunteer, every cop has been friendly, decent and compassionate.
    In the role of Joe public, complainant; I have experienced varying degrees of professionalism in the investigative stage, but only the highest standard in the reporting phase.
    A mate had a high ranked (Police Officer) relative, who once told me most of the a-holes either get posted or request traffic or watch-house duties.
    Another Inspector opened up a Police-being-trained-by-SES night, by saying that every one had a gripe about a copper, 95% of the population have only ever met a traffic cop. That Senior Seargent over there is in traffic, take your bitching to him!
    My view is that, as the Inspector implied, we (as average citizens) are mostly dealing with the bottom of the barrel. Don't judge the entire service on the action(s) of the pedantic little twerp who just wrote you up. Attitude goes a long way, the copper who pulls you up is not going to feel inclined to let you off with a warning for a minor infringment, if you approach him/her in an aggressive manor. I have got more warnings than tickets with this approach.
    Most coppers are dedicated to society, they are doing a hard job that most of us either cannot or do not want to do.
    Well said Ian...

    I too agree... And I too have driven / ridden away with far less tickets due to a friendly, polite approach.

    In Whyalla, I never get stopped for anything other than a cop wanting to look & chat about the bike / 4wd..... And the good news is anyone else seen driving my vehicles is immediately pulled over

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