Thread: Nearly eight-in-10 want city 4WD ban

Originally Posted by dobbo

If I cannot drive in "the city" which city? Dubbo has a CBD too.


Also how much of a discount do I get on my registration considering I cannot drive in the CBD yet I work there?

Don't ask silly questions. Of course you don't get a discount, and you don't get any definition of what is "the city" either.

If they keep the city drivers out of the country as well, as someone suggested, maybe it will be a plus.

But I don't think anything is going to happen, anyway.

John

and feel intimidated when driving close to an off-road vehicle.

I can relate to this - is it just me or are the majority of 4wd Hilux drivers incredibly aggressive?

It is called selective surveying.
Happens all the time to get an answer a particular group wants.
I have no issue as long as they also ban :
Pedestrians
Cyclists
Scooter and Moped Riders
High performance motorcycles
Enduro motorcycles
Old motorcycles
Harleys
Buses
Trucks
Taxis
Vans
Trams
Mobility Scooters
Skateboards
Ripsticks
Sports Cars
People Movers
Old smoky wrecks
Soccer Mums
Seniors
P Platers
L Platers
Young Drivers
Middle Age Drivers
V8s
Imported cars
Dull average cars
Toyota Divers
Nissan Drivers
Mitsubishi Drivers
Jeep Drivers
West Coast & Port Power Supporters (you would think they would be good drivers having 2 heads and all)
and especially Prius Drivers
There that should solve it, anyone I have forgotten.

Originally Posted by spudboy

It should ALL be in the price of fuel. No rego, no CTP, maybe just a one off charge for your number plates ($25??).

If you drive more - you pay more. Simple. More KMs means more risk, more road damage, etc, so means you should pay more. Have exemptions for static motors (generators) or farmers who don't go on the road.

Good in theory, but what about us remote country people that have to drive hundreds of kms for basic services those who live in or near a city take for granted? For example if I need a LR service centre it is a 500km min one way trip. Need to see a specialist 1400km round trip.

Originally Posted by spudboy

It should ALL be in the price of fuel. No rego, no CTP, maybe just a one off charge for your number plates ($25??).

If you drive more - you pay more. Simple. More KMs means more risk, more road damage, etc, so means you should pay more. Have exemptions for static motors (generators) or farmers who don't go on the road.

I agree. I have often spoken in favour of a fuel tax to replace all registration and CTP charges. This is fair to all. Those who use the roads most should pay the most.

In addition, older Queenslanders will remember when driver's licences were no charge and issued for up to ten years. A fuel tax could replace the current charges for licences.

Originally Posted by seano87

So because I don't live in an inner-city environment, I deserve to pay more for rego simply because for me to do something simple like drive to the shops it happens to be up to a 50km round trip??

Basing it on km driven in any way is the complete opposite to fair IMO.

Seano

This is a fair comment. Taxing the distance a vehicle drives disadvantages those who live in country areas and in outer suburbs. Given that the outer suburbs are usually the areas where the battlers live, this ends up being a regressive tax that taxes the less well off end of society. That is not fair.

This will also lead to a greater level of urbanisation when we, in our huge and empty country, should be aiming for decentralisation.


Willem

Latest studies show, and recent Surveys in country and remote areas suggested, most people who paticipated in anti 4wd surveys were of more benefit to the environment by becoming carbon neutral.

Stupid statements and incompetent "surveys / studies" apparently give any opinion absolute credibility these days.

The media have absolutely no ability to seek and report on actual news or stories so they create a story around some Anal Retentive, Socially Inept, multi Phobia relative of theirs, for whom an every day errand of getting the paper is frought with peril and renders them physically and mentally drained.

They then tell the public that this is all that is going on in the world.

The most positive thing about any of these reports is that Australians must be doing exceptionally well in all aspects of life, because the things that make us concerned are not War, Famine, Freedom of Speech, but feeling uncomfortable around a vehicle.

Rant over.

Have great day all.

Originally Posted by Sleepy

Originally Posted by Basil135

From News.com.au

Nearly eight-in-10 want city 4WD ban | National Breaking News | News.com.au

Ignoring all of the emotional hype for a moment, the biggest concern is the small number of people surveyed. Especially when you consider how many vehicles are on our roads.

Funny, when they did the survey last December Vote today Melb Herald Sun - banning 4wd from city roads

65% did not want them banned.

S'pose it depends who you ask......

(And how many times they clear their cookies )

You only have to look at whom did the poll - News limited this is the same company that owns Fox News that reports polls that 98% or Americans are afraid of President Obama, 93% believe that President Obama is not an American citizen.

At least Fairfax still has some credibility - I don't trust Rupert Murdock and News Ltd for any of my information - it is all biased to the ultra conservative right.

Diana