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    200 Series Tojo info wanted

    HiAll

    A mate's boss is choosing between a 200 and a Rangie. Can anyone point me to a link to get the low down on these new 200 series? I know about the GVM issue when loaded up, but looking for something else.

    I wish all decisions in life were as easy as choosing between a Rangie (beautiful) versus a LC200 (uuuuuuggggllyyyyy) but we're all see things through different eyes don't we.

    I'll use google but if youve see a thread on overlander or something I'd be grateful for the pointer.

    cheers

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    Apparently a lot of the TD's are having a wee problem with oil consumption. Think 4-6 litres in the first 10,000k's and you'd be around the mark. AFAIK Toyota doesn't seem to think that this is a problem.

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    go the D4....if only i had the $$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLowRanger View Post
    Apparently a lot of the TD's are having a wee problem with oil consumption. Think 4-6 litres in the first 10,000k's and you'd be around the mark. AFAIK Toyota doesn't seem to think that this is a problem.
    Just what I used to think

    My 2 uncles up north QLD on properties have the 200 series TD's and both love them. One has done over 100 000k's. Better car than his old 100 series 4.2 TD (which has 650 000k's)
    Alot of the mines have them apparently which do big miles and all have been great... just what I have been told..well they both work in the mines so I'd trust that.

    All depends who you talk to and read on the net. Now my Dad is keen on the new Sahara again.. don't blame him as resale is twice as good as a rangie.

    Camo

    PS.. I get a rangie
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    James - the GM of the company we share the office in Fremantle with recently went through the same exercise. Their company vehicles to date have been either Toyota or Holden ONLY. The GM's Prado was up for replacement, and the MD told him to go out and buy a 200 series VX.

    The GM did the comparisons, and without really knowing much about any of the bad points of the 200 series - ended up buying a D3 HSE TDV6 with everything, for less than the price quoted for the mid-spec VX Toymota.

    So even without considering the known Toymota bad points (GVM, oil consumption, adorable aesthetics etc), the D3 comes out ahead on value for money - and it's a better 4WD to boot.

    And contrary to another comment on here - I visit many mine sites as part of my job - and 200 series cruisers are so far an extremely rare sight on mine sites in WA. The only ones you generally see on the mines are owned by suppliers / sales reps etc. The mining companies and major contractors are not buying them in any numbers at all. Since the demise of the 100 series, the number of diesel Prado's on minesites in WA has increased astronomically. The 70 series wagon would have done better but for the absence of front driver & passenger airbags in the initial release, but that omission has just been addressed by Toyota, so I would expect to see many more of these selling into the mines from now on. But the 200 series has definitely NOT got a good name in the mining industry in WA. In fact, opinion in the mining industry is still pretty divided over the 70 series V8 diesel. I know of many who still much prefer the previous model 4.2 turbo 6. My son has one of these as his work ute (he's a diesel mechanic / fitter) and the company he works for so far refuses to buy the TDV8 as there are still too many issues with them.
    Cheers .........

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    Thats right.. I wouldn't touch anything with such a bad rep.

    Both my uncles love them.. all depends who you talk to.. but end of the day when you pay 100k for a car you arn't going to say its a piece of crap are you.

    Can't imagine the V8TD doing 650 000k's without touching the motor
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    I have seen that the oil consumption issue was found to be down to a turbo problem - so presumably now fixed if that was the case.

    I believe the GVM issue has been addressed by the likes of ARB, with the necessary changes carried out before the vehicle is registered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Camo View Post
    Thats right.. I wouldn't touch anything with such a bad rep.

    Both my uncles love them.. all depends who you talk to.. but end of the day when you pay 100k for a car you arn't going to say its a piece of crap are you.

    Can't imagine the V8TD doing 650 000k's without touching the motor
    It's all good that he got 650,000ks out of his six but alot of people haven't.They have a habit of snapping cranks and alot of them were replaced because of bigend and main bearing trouble.It seems that the V8 is going well talking to tojo owners but goldfields toyota in Kal are very busy keeping them going to the point of setting up field service utes to service them,the 5 speed gearbox's aren't surviving either,last time I was up there there was 3 of them getting new box's fitted.I would be a little peeved spending $100,000 on a vehicle only to have to spend another $3500 on new suspension so I could carry more than a litre of milk. Pat

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    With my work we see plenty of fleet vehicles.... 200 is definately not proving to be the sales horse.... probably never will again and I doubt Toyota are concerned, thats why the 70 series line up was released, horses for courses. The 200 have GVM issues, unless they are a toorak tractor, most use plenty of oil and as said Toyota aren't concerned... (remember this is the company that wasn't concerend with the 100 series front control arms either), They also got a reputation for cracking the front of the vehicle.. Toyota removed their own steel bar from sale because of this. ARB (TJM probably the same) have to reinforce the front end to take a bar.

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    yep... off with body, weld chassis. exxxxxpensive job. VERY embarrassing another post on diff forum mentioned one isolated dealer with several in workshop... plus number of very unhappy grey nomads,,,

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