the auto shifter looks a little homebrew to me... might be a prototype or a one off?
Id have thought that putting the auto from the sludgebox transit vans shouldnt have been to hard.
There is one site in Holland where I found and article and photos of an automatic Puma.
The article is in dutch so I do not have an idea if it is a limited series for EU or a new model.
Here are some photos
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the auto shifter looks a little homebrew to me... might be a prototype or a one off?
Id have thought that putting the auto from the sludgebox transit vans shouldnt have been to hard.
Dave
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HERE is the article just in case that someone can translate it![]()
its not dutch, its german.
heres the babelfish link and its not all that good.
Babelfished to english
in a nutshell they took a zf4hp and put it in. then hooked the electronic shift controller to the puma donks ecu.
now my transit van history is only enough to realise that yes they exist, yes they have been on top gear and yes they were available in both auto and manual BUT my best guess is as follows
since the puma donk is just an evolution of the transit engine (like the td5 evolved from the tdi which evolved from the series diesel) some things remained similar enough (the flywheel housing adaptor plate namely) to make grabbing a flex plate, bolting on a TC then bolting the auto on feasable.
getting the ECU/ECM's to talk would have just been a case of a little translation and protocol fiddling.
as for the Tcase, Im guessing they would have stayed with the setup thats in the puma.
Dave
"In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."
For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.
Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
TdiautoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)
If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
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Go to Google, Language Tools - Language Tools
Past the website URL into the "Translate a web page" space
Select Language to convert from / to ... German ==>> English
Enjoy!
Ok here is the translation:
Now there is also a conversion option for the current Land Rover Defender Td4 with a four-cylinder Ford engine. Offroad Manufaktur Hamburg When you have the Td4 Defender SVX special edition "60 years" referred to the chest and the Jubilee Landy converted to automatic . Statt des serienmäßigen Getrag-Schaltgetriebes kommt jetzt der ZF4HP-Automat mit Compushift-System zum Einsatz. Instead of the standard Getrag manual transmission now comes the ZF4HP machine with Compushift system is used. Das ZF-Getriebe wurde schon länger für Defender- Umrüstungen verwendet und tat ursprünglich unter anderem in der 7er und 8er-Reihe bei BMW Dienst. The ZF transmission has been for some time for Defender-used conversions and did originally include in the 7 series and 8-series BMW service. In der Ausführung 4HP-24 verträgt es bis zu 450 Newtonmeter Drehmoment. In the embodiment 4HP-24, it tolerates up to 450 Newton meters of torque.
Land Rover Defender mit Compushift-System Land Rover Defender with Compushift System
The transmission controller is controlled to use a keypad with digital display of driver's seat - an interesting gimmick for the variable transmission setting for off-road driving or pulling a trailer. Dazu informiert das Display unter anderem über den Öldruck und die Öltemperatur im Getriebe. In addition, the display provides information including on the oil pressure and oil temperature in the transmission. Das Viergang-Automatikgetriebe hat zwar nicht die extreme Übersetzung der unteren Schaltstufe zu bieten wie sie das Seriengetriebe mit dem superkurzen ersten Gang aufweist, gleicht das aber systembedingt über den Wandler aus. The four-speed automatic gearbox has to offer, not the extreme translation of the lower switching level as it has a standard transmission with a super short first gear that resembles systemic but over the transducer. Dieser erhöht das Drehmoment des Motors entsprechend. This increases the torque of the engine accordingly.
No loss of climbing ability
. Therefore, the automatic transmission, there may be systemic points when it comes to careful climbing in rocky terrain or driving without a friction-switching pauses in Tiefsand. Offroad The factory offers the Complete installation of 9.900 Euro, as the conversion time, one should reckon a week. Das originale Getrag-Schaltgetriebe geht dabei im Tausch an die Hamburger. The original Getrag manual transmission process, in exchange for the hamburgers. Eine Eintragung des neuen Getriebes ist nicht nötig. An entry of the new transmission is not necessary.
Isn't compushift David ashcrofts unit? I thought he developed that for the TD5 to put auto's in
Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......
I always thought compushift was a common nickname for sludge boxes with electronic brains that had the ability to be externally controlled (as in other than with just the selector)
Dave
"In a Landrover the other vehicle is your crumple zone."
For spelling call Rogets, for mechanicing call me.
Fozzy, 2.25D SIII Ex DCA Ute
TdiautoManual d1 (gave it to the Mupion)
Archaeoptersix 1990 6x6 dual cab(This things staying)
If you've benefited from one or more of my posts please remember, your taxes paid for my skill sets, I'm just trying to make sure you get your monies worth.
If you think you're in front on the deal, pay it forwards.
Ian tells me that he thinks compushift is an american company that ashcroft adopted....not that ashcroft made them..
but isn't this what ashcroft used to mate a zf to the Td5?
Our Land Rover does not leak oil! it just marks its territory.......
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