Thread: interesting if true...

Having been to D.C and warned which sides of the streets to use I can believe it.

It is an interesting statistic, and I think IS relevant - but the figures are not directly comparable - I suspect very few of the deaths in Washington involve trained combat troops, and very few are wearing body armour, which would apply to most cases of the US deaths in Iraq.

But the comparison is relevant in that the rate of violent deaths among US troops in Iraq should be compared to the rate of those troops in the USA, which while probably not as high, is certainly not zero - be interesting to know what it was.

John

Originally Posted by incisor

From the Australian Shooter Magazine this week, which is quoted below.

"If you consider that there has been an average of 160,000 troops in the Iraq theater of operations during the past 22 months, and a total of 2112 deaths, that gives a firearm death rate of 60 per 100,000 soldiers.
The firearm death rate in Washington , DC is 80.6 per 100,000 for the same period. That means you are about 25 per cent more likely to be shot and killed in the US capital, which has some of the strictest gun control laws in the US , than you are in Iraq.




Conclusion: "The US should pull out of Washington."

Interesting, but I cannot quite follow how they calculated to arrive at the 60/100.000 ratio. John's comments are valid, though.

From my time in the military I recall that during all joint exercises we had with US-forces they always had casualties, due to neglect and ignorance, improper handling of their gear. Handling their weaponry in cowboylike manner produced rather predictable results. We were joking that we didn't need to fight them, only wait until they've finished off themselves. Sad, but true...

that satistic looks like its only including Blue on Blue incidents.

Quick work with calculater thats per month not year but then washington is way above the rest of the US which has about the same death rate as here. Washington is often used to show gun laws do not lower gun deaths and sweden is used to show gun posession does not raise gun deaths. Amazing thinks can be done with statistics and I am a shooter by the way.

Hey jojo during kangaroo 81 we lost 3 guys to accidents 1 building a bailly bridge and 2 in a gun buggy that got run over the yanks lost almost 10 x that but it was within exercize expectations glad i didnt work for them.

The police chief in Detroit City made similar comments earlier this year.

As for the rest of America having similar shooting rates as here, the road death toll in the USA is 16,000 for last year and 26,000 from shootings.

While most places in the US would not be far off what happens here, but our number of shooting related deaths is way below our road toll numbers.

Originally Posted by THE BOOGER

Hey jojo during kangaroo 81 we lost 3 guys to accidents 1 building a bailly bridge and 2 in a gun buggy that got run over the yanks lost almost 10 x that but it was within exercize expectations glad i didnt work for them.

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