Thread: New 2010 Patrol

Originally Posted by disco_mitch

**** that i feel sick i think im going to spew seems jeeps saying is so true
"theres only one".........realy 4by still in production these suv/4wd things they have all come out with disgust me imagine taking that thing up the tracks we all go driving, i understand making a comfy 4wd but for heaven sake keep it a real 4wd not a shopping trolley if i went out now and bought a brand new 4wd the only thing that would be on the cards is a 4door wrangler

Mitch, I agree. In the - mainstream - current market, with the exception of the Defender, Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited, what else is there with live axles and coils at both ends?
Oh, the 76/79 series Cruisers?
Even the small(ish), but respected Suzuki's are now 4 wheel independent suspension.
Cheers
Mike

G-wagen will be back in RHD and around for a few years yet. Personally, I don't see the problem with well designed independent suspension e.g D3, if you don't intend on huge lifts etc. However, they only work well with the cross-linking that air suspension allows and I can see why coil sprung independent suspension can cause issues like bottoming out, more bits to break ( coils or air) etc

Hmmm....looks like they might have gone IFS ...bit hard to tell, but I'd be surprised seeing everything else has gone soft, that they retain a live front axle.

And for camping axes, you can't beat a Fiskars combo splitter axe ...I am getting one for Christmas

Originally Posted by dm_td5

Won't buy another Plumb axe. I had two fail on me, both developed hairline cracks from the edge back in to the head and full depth. I noticed it both times when I was hand sharpening the each axe. And, yes, they only every cut timber. To keep using them would have been courting disaster as the head could have fractured.

So to me Plumb axes are like Patrols, they have a built in catastrophic failure just waiting to occur.

See you all thought I'd gone off topic

Many years ago I teamed up with my uncle and spent a couple of years
as fencing contractors. we also built and repaired stock yards. Out there then, we were using all posts, no steelies. Everything cut by hand with our axes.
He showed me an old head as you discribe, with a hairline crack. As a boy he had been told by an old Bushman, that a head could be damaged on certain types of timber if the blade was a bit dull !!!
I would spend hours sharpening my axes with a bastard file the night before we would go out cutting. Six inch posts, ten inch strainers,
sometimes the cocky would want split posts. I must have cut thousands
of the things and never had an axe fail. I still do a bit of fencing to help out around the local country. The latest was building ten K of nine foot deer fencing, once again all axed timber. Three strands of plain and we used a Fordson tractor to strain the mesh. Most enjoyable. Beats
mowing the lawn.
Cheers.