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    off-road license (?)

    It seems that after the recent accident at Fraser Island some believe there might be a push for a compulsory acquisition of a special license to take your vehicle four wheel driving.. so, does that mean everyone with a steep driveway or those who go to the beach for a family holiday would need to get one? I wonder how they would define its requirements?

    ..rather than an additional license I believe some off-road training should be introduced as a basic requirement for passing on road licenses, cant hurt to be a little more prepared just in case one finds themselves in situation one day.

    ..while they’re at it some crash evasion/emergency response training wouldn’t hurt either

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    There has been some huge debate over the value of teaching advanced skills behind the wheel.

    Does it improve the way you react or does it teach you skills that you might use to hoon.

    Probably both, but I'm not sure that they need to teach 4WD skills for a car licence as to most it will be irrelevant and impractical.



    I dont have any notable problem with a 4WD licence, but I think if needed that it should just be a short term sign off after a written pending a basic 4WD vet course with all of the normal outcomes achieved.
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    Then what do people who own 4x4s already do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by easo View Post
    Then what do people who own 4x4s already do?
    Nothing. I cant see it happening. There would be waaaay to much controversy and the government wouldn't lose an election over it.
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    Discussion is good but lets not fan this little fire - or it might take hold and we will all have get special licences.

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    Like it was said at the end of the frst interview...the vehicle was overloaded and occupants weren't wearing seatbelts, already breaking the law in 2 instances, so what was to say that having a "offroad licence" would make a diference anyway?

    There have been several incidents, some tragic, in the dunes and beaches around here, and no amount of training/licensing/regulations would have made a difference in most cases. Apart from some genuine accidents, most are just down to plain stupidity.

    I know each case is unique, but the ultimate responsibility come to the person behind the wheel.

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    Lots of people have car licences and still cant drive well on the bitumen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jbarracl View Post
    Lots of people have car licences and still cant drive well on the bitumen.
    yup....i think there is way more carnage on the hiway leaving a lot more people affected

    and.....go through the trip reports on this site, its amasing how many members are not wearing seatbelts......

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    They will never happen. They cannot happen and for one simple reason.

    You can license people to drive on roads because roads are governed by statute. They are owned either by state or local government and the statutes that govern access to roads can therefore be policed.

    Offroad is entirely different. Ownership is the first major factor and access privileges that ensue. Government agencies (e.g. police) do not have right of access without due cause, for example they have to actually know that someone is in the process of doing something that contravenes their license. They cannot sit and wait like they do on roads.

    Put another way. If licensing was to be implemented there would be no effective way to police it without first removing people's right to privileged access to privately owned property. Can you see that happening? I can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    There has been some huge debate over the value of teaching advanced skills behind the wheel.

    Does it improve the way you react or does it teach you skills that you might use to hoon.

    Probably both, but I'm not sure that they need to teach 4WD skills for a car licence as to most it will be irrelevant and impractical.



    I dont have any notable problem with a 4WD licence, but I think if needed that it should just be a short term sign off after a written pending a basic 4WD vet course with all of the normal outcomes achieved.

    Agree entirely Slunnie
    I am one of those OHS people Actually im not and vastly different from the classical HR OHS person as im a scientist OHS person. I like to say I operationalise OHS i manage risk not eliminate it. I could eliminate it but wed never get out of bed.

    As opposed to some of my supposedly claimed snake oil kin who OHSise operations eg bog everything down with admin and licenses and proport to live in a no risk world. pfffff

    At a previous employer I actually got rid of advanced driver training for exactly that fact. Our insurance premiums went up. Some spark said, "your the OHS guy send them on advanced training". I said no its a crap idea. Got overuled. Did it. Premiums went through the roof. Lasted about three months as we had more accidents in the next three months than the last three years. Same idiot said "your the OHS guy get rid of it"
    Funny same idiot oversaw the demise of a mutlination pharmacuetical company that no longer manufactures in Aust, funny that!

    instead of risk management they went risk aversion, "oh i can drive on a skid pan I can get out of anything" ooops tree , ooops another car , ooops thats a big truck

    As has been said before we are ment to have a license before we get on the road in a 2wd car yet how many people flaunt that one. What use is another 4wd license. Cant legislate stupidity.

    mind you i did go a do a couple of 4wd recovery courses etc but i did it cause i wanted to learn not cause some politican masterass told me to!
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