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    Quote Originally Posted by bacicat View Post
    I like them, and so do most people that have owned them. You will find most nay sayers of them have never owned one, more like 'a mate had one and he said it was ****' sort of thing.

    G'day Bacicat,

    What type of Zenith Stromberg CD 175 carburettor are you going to run on your 2.6? Is it a straight CD 175, or is it a CD 175 2 or another type of 175? I seem to have three different CD's on some of my 2.6 motors. These would be a CD 175, a CD 175 2, and a CD 175 2S. The "S" is a smaller superscript font just above the "2"

    Sorry for the hijack 86Mud


    Kind Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionelgee View Post
    G'day Bacicat,

    What type of Zenith Stromberg CD 175 carburettor are you going to run on your 2.6? Is it a straight CD 175, or is it a CD 175 2 or another type of 175? I seem to have three different CD's on some of my 2.6 motors. These would be a CD 175, a CD 175 2, and a CD 175 2S. The "S" is a smaller superscript font just above the "2"

    Sorry for the hijack 86Mud


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    Not sure what's on it, but I was thinking of none of the above and sticking EFI on it. I have a thread running on that.
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    rebuild costs

    "Next question - what to do next? rebuild, or replacement engine? If I rebuild, is it a costly exercise for the 186?"
    86Mud,
    Costs: I didn't set out to rebuild the 186 in my IIA after its head gasket failed. So far I have spent around $500 just doing the head (without hardened seats), then no point doing that without "fixing" the radiator - turned into a recore, another $600... plus prob another $200 all told on other bits - new hoses, gaskets, clamps etc. I'm almost ready to start her up again but already I've been told to expect the bottom end to let go now the top end is good. SO - your price of $1500 all up with hardened seats isn't so bad.

    Parts: I needed a new outlet manifold as mine had a split in it. Not easy to find like they used to be! Eventually got one, only $10 and the guy offered to almost give me a 149 (suit rebuild). He said not even the Holden club wanted it. When I checked out parts availability I found some of the early reds are have some parts no longer available - pistons for example. So I left the 149 there.

    Originality: Here in SA there is a historic vehicle registration scheme, for a 6 cyl car takes rego down from almost $1K to around $150 per year. Catch is you have to be in a club, keep a logbook and (here's the biggie) the car has to be original. I haven't tried yet but I think a red motor might be a problem, even though the conversions were mostly done ages ago and were fairly common. So - if that's a consideration - the 2.6 Rover motor could be the go.

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    I know in QLD you can have a Holden engine on club registration as it was a period conversion.

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    Seems to depend on the 'Club' in SA.
    Same here in VIC. Some clubs want the vehicle 'original' some allow period mods, some require that you're a member for at least 2 years, some need so many meeting attendances per year.

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    I have been running my 186 since 88 it is getting that knock on start up. now has low compression so rang repco who used to get them rebuilt in the old days was told $2300 rebuild mine or $2200 swap (have to watch who does them some just bore them out to the max which I think is 30th) I had a noisy gearbox so looked for a second to rebuild so not of the road for a long time, found one, the bloke said I think it was done up for that motor. On the bench was a full recon balanced 202 has not been turned over, my mate the mechanic I took with me says oh is that for sale too, the bloke said as he was walking out the door to get the rebuild paperwork yes you can have the pair for $700(sold)the 186 is still going but I will probably get it done up as they say the 186 is the better of the two (I don't drive hard anymore but tow a 16ft glass boat now and then) how old my motor was when I started belting it around in 88 is a guess, but if my next one can get 25 yrs. up and down the expressway and to work every day ill be happy. Was going to do rings and bottom end bearings but my mates call me a fool if I don't do the rest, I think ill do the lot, a couple of grand for a fresh motor is good insurance I reckon good luck with yours hope it turns out well markus

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    So far I have been quote between $3000 and $4000 to rebuild the engine including removal and reinstall.

    Just lost interest now...and thinking of selling it. I don't really feel like spending that kind of money on it.

    pretty sad about the whole thing. All that work building it up and now it is just sitting in the back yard with a tarp over it.
    Andrew
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    1972 Peugeot 504 Sedan - Daily Driver

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    bugger.......

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    Did you try HM GEM.
    They must have done 10s of thousands of these and they used to be pretty cheap..
    HM GEM ยป Passenger / Engine Reconditioning
    Be best if you could do the remove replace yourself as that would be a big chunk of the quoted amount, maybe 1000.
    Regards Philip A

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    might give them a call...

    I also found an engine on Gumtree so that is another option to buy a second hand motor. But then I have to trust the word of the previous owner.
    Andrew
    1998 Landrover Defender 300Tdi 130 HCPU Expedition
    1972 Peugeot 504 Sedan - Daily Driver

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