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Thread: Replacing the D3.... A Hypothetical Question

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    Wild card option....

    An AWD Ford Territory....

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    Not macho, and not that big, but how about suzuki Vitara. Great machine I am led to believe.

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    I would actually struggle to tick any boxes with the Territory compared to the D3. Maybe initial purchase cost. Maybe servicing cost. Not much else.

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    I came from a Territory to a D4. I had it for 4 years. I brought it new. I was happy to see it go.

    On the flip side I sold my XR6 Turbo Ute to help fund the D4. It was a special car that I miss. It sold in 3 days at the advertised price to a guy who drove it for the first time when he picked it up. It was simply the best car I have ever owned. That includes the D4.

    I would have another XR6 Turbo Ute today. But I wouldn't have another Territory.

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    Freelander 2 TD4, For that money he could even get a HSE ex demo or bargain into a new unit.
    Get him to drive one, there are some good deals going at the moment.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by mowog View Post
    Wild card option....

    An AWD Ford Territory....
    an even wilder possibility, a 2.7TDV6 Ford Territory if they ever get around to releasing it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoSaffa View Post
    As for the D3, it is getting on and he is worried about ongoing maintenance costs.........
    Surely ongoing maintenance will still be cheaper than a newish car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by catch-22 View Post
    Surely ongoing maintenance will still be cheaper than a newish car...
    More than likely, but the concern is the uncertainty of the costs with an 05 D3......

    Having read the posts here and pondered it for 48 hours, I reckon the way to go is to hang onto the D3, buy and extended warranty and drive it for the next 3 or 4 years..........

    With the costs of replacing mine, it is exactly what I plan to do in two years when my lease is up.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie2 View Post
    You are right on the 2.7 D4, its going to suffer badly in 4-5 years for sure.

    The V6 is an old donk, with a bad history in Exploders though.
    This engine is not available here in the UK. Only the diesel and for a while the v8 petrol versions.

    Is not the V6 the old Ford Cologne engine dating from the sixties? Not sure there have been significant problems with the engine though. It is used in a number of USA vehicles not just the Explorers.

    There is rumour in the motor trade here that production is to finally cease and be replaced with a USA built engine. Almost all production goes to the USA. The engine has not seen use in Europe for a decade so Euro pricing makes it a very expensive option for a non Euro customer. If so perhaps the reason for it being deleted from the D4 version is that Ford signaled changed pricing or changed supply arrangements and it was no longer going to be economic to continue?

    With the diesel engine being a Ford product no doubt the supply will be limited the same as BMW did on the Freelander D4 engine once they sold the business to Ford. Land Rover could have sold many more D4 Freelanders however BMW would not supply the engines. Of course Ford also sells their diesel engines to Peugeot who did a deal to manufacture the 4 cylinder version themselves. So they may be more flexible than BMW in this respect. While not something the general public associates with the brand Ford is the largest producer of diesel engines in the world. Their modern diesel range is also some of the best most reliable engines too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    This engine is not available here in the UK. Only the diesel and for a while the v8 petrol versions.
    The UK market is big on diesels, the V8 D2 only sold in very limited numbers there, the Tdi and Td5 being the bigger sellers, so it is no surprise that the V6 was not a big seller in the UK. Especially bearing in mind the cost of fuel.

    Quote Originally Posted by 3toes View Post
    Is not the V6 the old Ford Cologne engine dating from the sixties? Not sure there have been significant problems with the engine though. It is used in a number of USA vehicles not just the Explorers.
    To my knowledge this is the motor. My old man had it in 3l form in Ford Sapphire in RSA, that he eventually sold having done 300 000km. It is still used there in 4l form in the courier bakkies (utes).

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