Reply With QuoteThe company I work for has had a great wall for 12months,55,000's and it hasn't missed a beat,no Toyota they have ever ran can match that. Pat
Master
I noticed the new Great Wall fourbies are selling at the moment for about $26,990. Why don't you folk recommend them to your L200 mates as an alternative to their Toyotas...
OldBushie
The company I work for has had a great wall for 12months,55,000's and it hasn't missed a beat,no Toyota they have ever ran can match that. Pat
Master
Are you sure , 2 litres per hour of oil ? That wouldn't run .......Originally Posted by PAT303
Master
SupporterThat put a smile on my face for a Friday afternoon
Wizard
Never let the truth get in the way of a good Toyota bashing.
Master
I bought a DII V8 auto 10 years ago when it first came out and still have it till today.
I considered the D4 and bought the LC200.
I'll be the first to say that the Toyota looks like very poor value for money for what you get from the same $$$ that you'd spend on a D4.
But if you are a big big bloke (not that I am) the LC200 does have more width, and some people do value that.
When you get behind a LC200 steering wheel, you steer the vehicle. When you get behind a D4 steering wheel, you drive the vehicle.
If you need big towing rig, the LC200 V8 diesel still wins, compared to the 3.0 TDV6. But it's a handful around town and not really good for dropping kids off at school because it doesn't have ride height control (no air suspension for Aussie spec vehicles anyway)
And if you need a vehicle that cossets you in luxury, the D4 takes the cake. Whilst a top of the line Sahara will have leather and stuff in it, the faux wood and silver trim really puts me off. Toyota don't seem to have access to interior designers of the same calibre as Land Rover.
The D4's interior even makes the P38A Range Rover feel very quite ordinary. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of Range Rover drivers would have purchased a D4, unless they are badge slaves.
Last edited by tempestv8; 8th May 2010 at 11:07 PM. Reason: Fix spellin error
Master
Would have to definately agree with that !!
Considering the average type apartment/house the japanese live in, you would definately think they could do better.
Mind you, I wonder if the LC500 (in years to come) will come equipment with a full bathroom ?
Wizard
Hi tempestv8,
I tend to disagree in some areas. When I bought my D3 (before my D4) I compared the D3 with the 100 Series Landcruiser.
The D3 had more rear leg room when the drivers seat was set at normal driving position, more room in the rear of the wagon (exactly the same height) and only 30mm narrower inside the vehicle, meaning that if there are 3 adults in the back seat, they would miss out on 10mm of space each (hardly noticable).
I also compared the D3 to the 200 Landcruiser. Although on paper the 4.5 V8TD has way more power & torque, the 2.7TD D3 was actually more responsive towing, but couldn't quite match the torque.
Now that I have the 3.0Lt D4 I would dare any LC200 owner to match mine towing on hills (or anywhere for that matter).
The LC200 does have slightly more interior room than the 100 that I was comparing too, however you will find that Landrover have made far better use of interior space.
My two bobs worth, Craig
ChatterBox
Saw what looked like a Great Wall in front but as I got close realised it was a LC200.
ChatterBox
Well,
Yesterday Afternoon i had the pleasure to be able to have a sit, fiddle, play & have quite a good drive of a friends TDV8 LC200 (Thanks TempestV8-you still should of not gone to the dark side
We did a quick comparison of both our vehicles; -
LR D4 2.7 TDV6 & LC200 TDV8, not really fair as i would of liked the 3.0ltr for a better comparison, but it was a bit of fun anyway.
First thoughts-BIG!
The LC is a big vehicle no matter which way you look at it. Inside, outside, all points its just big, especially when both vehicles are parked next to each other & you glance from one to another.
As TempestV8 has said the interiors are miles away from each other in quality, comfort, design & fashion, LC "Fantastic Plastic" is the theme here where ever you look. But on the plus side it is all functional & reasonably works well.
There are a few quirky things which makes you just think "What were they thinking". But all in all its a typical Japenese vehicle.
Unfortunately it misses the little things that you would "expect" in a sub $80k bracket of motoring, leather steering wheel, gearknob, maybe even leather/part leather seating!!??
While i drove the vehicle i was impressed with the sheer grunt, compared to my vehicle, well you can tell its a V8, its as simple as that. Not that my vehicle was a slug, but you can just feel the torque pulling you into the back of the seat & hear the lovely V8 rumble into motion.
I dont know much of the foils of owning a LC200 & what little quirks they have but the vehicle handled quite well for a large vehicle, TempestV8's beast was fitted with the KDSS system which is similar to the ACE in the D2 & i was pretty glad it was as i was expecting to be tossed around like being on a boat, but to my dismay it handled very well, the 17" rim/tyre package helped soak up a lot of the bumps on the not so quite perfect roads of Melbourne.
I havent driven a Std LC200 without KDSS so i really cant compare one to another, but did like it in this.
The 2nd row has a fair amount of room & the loadspace area looks huge, it is wider than the D4, but depth wise would be about the same, & again height wise similar, but the D4 is very square, as the LC is compramised by the seat that hang in the way of using the whole loadspace area(unless you removethem of course).
Dissapointing in some area's & surprising in others, not my cup of tea.
In the end i was surprised with the big beast, it drove ok, had enough grunt & a wonderful sound....
BUT
It wasnt a LANDROVER
And the girls love em'.......
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