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    D3 - Passenger vehicle - Panel Van ?

    Well I managed to get a parking ticket today in the "city of Sydney" for parking on a loading zone.

    Nice lady bomber, explained to me that most 4wds are not station wagons, my explanation of being from QLD (my licence is, thou the vehicle is NSW), she suggest writting to explain and she noted some details on her ticket record.

    When I finally found my vehicle registration papers later, I noticed that some details were wrong, showing 7 instead of 5 seats and the type of vehicle as "PVF" which it seems translates to Panel Van with Windows.

    Now a Panel van is not a station wagon, but is it a goods carry vehicle ? I would have thought so, but haven't yet been able to locate definition on the RTA web site.

    Anybody got a clue on this ?

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    Not a station wagon!!!!!!
    A D4 & other 4WD's are Panel Vans with windows??????
    WHAT THE!!!!!

    I'll have a look at my rego papers tomorrow for the D4, Pathie, & 100 series (they are at work). I'm pretty sure they say "SWG".

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    The hardest at the moment is trying to find an actual definition of a "PANEL VAN" somewhere in the various bits of legislation.

    You might not that at least in NSW most 4wds are excluded from being "station wagons". I was told that due to the weight of the D3 its classed as a panel van.

    Its b.confusing.

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    I thought loading zones were for loading and unloading goods. I wasn't aware there was a vehicle type defined for using loading zones. What about couriers in Hyundais, etc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJon View Post
    I thought loading zones were for loading and unloading goods. I wasn't aware there was a vehicle type defined for using loading zones. What about couriers in Hyundais, etc?
    http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/rulesregul...chure_0409.pdf

    specific mention:
    <quote>

    Please note:
    The majority of 4WD vehicles,
    hatchbacks and other coupé and sports
    type vehicles are not defined as station
    wagons under NSW Regulations.
    These vehicles are not principally
    designed and constructed for carrying
    goods and therefore, they are excluded
    from parking in loading zones.
    </quote>

    Its this mention which makes being a panel van interesting.... if we can find a suitable definition in an Act somewhere.....

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    My 7 seater D4 has WAG on the NSW Rego papers and according to the RTA website, this means it is classified as a Station Wagon.

    Pg 35 of the Motor Dealer's Guide http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...alersguide.pdf

    In the past my 3 door Suzuki Vitara was allowed to park 30 minutes in loading zones, and my Subaru Outback was allowed 15 mins. I thought I was still allowed 30 mins in the D4, but will try to clarify with someone as well.

    Note that in Canberra you need a special permit/sticker to park in their loading zones (I found out the hard way many years ago...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by eddomak View Post
    My 7 seater D4 has WAG on the NSW Rego papers and according to the RTA website, this means it is classified as a Station Wagon.

    Pg 35 of the Motor Dealer's Guide http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...alersguide.pdf

    In the past my 3 door Suzuki Vitara was allowed to park 30 minutes in loading zones, and my Subaru Outback was allowed 15 mins. I thought I was still allowed 30 mins in the D4, but will try to clarify with someone as well.

    Note that in Canberra you need a special permit/sticker to park in their loading zones (I found out the hard way many years ago...)
    Thats the document I was looking for :-) many thanks.

    My previous vehicle (qld rego) was a jimny and was a station wagon.
    previous to that was a 10 seat (front changed to 2 buckets) hz75 (toyo) and was a bus ....

    So trivetts are going to provide a blue slip to change from 7 to 5 seats (its a 5 seat "S"), and it seems the PVF will change prob to WAG. though I think I would rather it as a PVF for loading zones :-)

    Ok, so whats the rest of the NSW D3 & D4 rego'd as ??

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    When my work ute got booked for parking in a loading zone it was because the company insignia on the doors was less than 150 mm square, if the sign had been 50 mm bigger it would have qualified as a vehicle dropping or picking up goods, the fact that the ute was booked at 19:00 hrs and all the shops were shut had absolutely nothing to do with anything!!!! Crazy rules, crazy times!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gps-au View Post
    .... if we can find a suitable definition in an Act somewhere....
    .... or park in the right place and save yourself a load
    of bother ......... You should know better than sailing
    into the wind with parking zones . Not worth the trouble just
    to park a vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck's Guts View Post
    Not a station wagon!!!!!!
    A D4 & other 4WD's are Panel Vans with windows??????
    WHAT THE!!!!!

    I'll have a look at my rego papers tomorrow for the D4, Pathie, & 100 series (they are at work). I'm pretty sure they say "SWG".
    I stand corrected. They all have body shapes of "PVF".

    RTA document at http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registrati...alersguide.pdf
    identifies "PVF" as a TRUCK code for "Panel Van with Windows & Seats 4WD".

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