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Thread: Disco 4 Engine System Failure Warning - beware!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    Is it true the 2012 3.0l has a particulate filter?...The proper oil is then critical.
    I couldn't buy a 20L drum of LR's recommended non-DPF oil. I'd rather use non-DPF oil as I understand that the DPF version is a lubrication compromise.
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    I do agree with you Graeme, but to replace the DPF at some stage is mega $$$$$$$ unless someone comes up with a software delete for it. In reality with one fitted it is between a rock and hard place as I do agree that lubrication is of utmost importance.
    A DPF regen in traffic could be a nightmare and downright dangerous for an inexperienced driver.
    Another Graeme

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    I don't know whether its a passive or active record but there is a DPF-fitted parameter in the CCF.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plane Fixer View Post
    I do agree with you Graeme, but to replace the DPF at some stage is mega $$$$$$$ unless someone comes up with a software delete for it. In reality with one fitted it is between a rock and hard place as I do agree that lubrication is of utmost importance.
    A DPF regen in traffic could be a nightmare and downright dangerous for an inexperienced driver.
    Another Graeme
    What is dangerous about a regen? The driver doesn't even know anything is happening. I have had a DPF on my VW Multivan for 5 years without any driveability problems for anyone. The only problem is that I have been told it is cracked and I need to fork out $2500 for a new one at only 130,000km. Since there are no error messages or power problems I won't be doing that! The other problem is that the fuel consumption is much worse than the non DPF older model VW's.

    There is no smoke with the DPF VW versus obvious smoke without a DPF on the previous model VW that I had. On my December 2009 build 3l D4 I also don't get any smoke or driveability problems and as far as I know it has a DPF. I have only had it since December so I might be missing something but so far it is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    On my December 2009 build 3l D4 I also don't get any smoke or driveability problems and as far as I know it has a DPF.
    Mine is a October 2009 build and definately doesn't have a DPF.

    Cheers, Craig

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    On my December 2009 build 3l D4 I also don't get any smoke or driveability problems and as far as I know it has a DPF.
    It was around mid-September that production swapped to market-specific fitment of the DPF. Its easy to check if it has a DPF as it is another large "muffler" just below the front passenger seat, with small tubes before and after going to pressure sensors mounted higher up. IIRC the VIN also indicates if it has a DPF by virtue of the engine configuration code.

    I didn't want the cost overheads of a DPF and I didn't want the heat from a regeneration being a fire hazzard in grass and stubble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    It was around mid-September that production swapped to market-specific fitment of the DPF. Its easy to check if it has a DPF as it is another large "muffler" just below the front passenger seat, with small tubes before and after going to pressure sensors mounted higher up. IIRC the VIN also indicates if it has a DPF by virtue of the engine configuration code.
    Thanks for that Graeme. Mine doesn't have a DPF on that basis and I can see the support point for the DPF with nothing attached to it.

    Bob

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    Sorry for the late reply
    I found them good. They attended to the problem immediately the morning the vehicle was delivered to them. The LD4 was looked after and retuned in good condition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    What is dangerous about a regen? The driver doesn't even know anything is happening. I have had a DPF on my VW Multivan for 5 years without any driveability problems for anyone. The only problem is that I have been told it is cracked and I need to fork out $2500 for a new one at only 130,000km. Since there are no error messages or power problems I won't be doing that! The other problem is that the fuel consumption is much worse than the non DPF older model VW's.

    There is no smoke with the DPF VW versus obvious smoke without a DPF on the previous model VW that I had. On my December 2009 build 3l D4 I also don't get any smoke or driveability problems and as far as I know it has a DPF. I have only had it since December so I might be missing something but so far it is fantastic.
    I have an Aug 2009 build D4 SE with a DPF. I've owned it since new and the warning light has come on only twice and I've been stuck in nose to tail traffic jams on far too many occasions.

    I've detected no change in anything whatsoever.....no smoke, no performance degradation and my fuel economy doesn't seem any worse than what others are quoting.

    As soon as the car gets a chance to drive normally, the light goes out within minutes.

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    Back on topic...

    After a brief "restricted performance" yesterday morning which was overcome on the 2nd restart, today the D4 spat the dummy totally. It had to keep doing its duties of fetching a few large square hay bales but ascending slight inclines at less than 60 kph was tediously slow. I'm sure much more power could be allowed yet still be well below any condition that might cause engine damage, especially considering that the engine seems to be limited to 3000 rpm. Clearing the faults with the engine stopped only lasted until quite minor throttle use but clearing them again with the engine running then immediately getting the revs up high a few times has so far kept the faults away. The 2nd turbo is getting replaced next week due to the on-going smoke screen after prolonged cruising then opening the throttle significantly, so whatever mechanism (air valve, turbo solenoid, ??) has become sticky needs to get replaced too.
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