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Thread: Disco 4 Engine System Failure Warning - beware!

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    Thanks Gentleman.

    Most of the reliability "stories" spread about LR have traditionally been by those who have never owned them. Part of that was tall poppy cause you used to be able to get a Nissan or Toyo etc cheaper, although in later times that has not necessarily been the case.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoWeb View Post
    ozscott,

    My take on this is that the limp mode really is a fail safe as a last resort. Where the vehicle senses that there is a problem that will cause a major failure and and so says "ok thats enough lets not blow anything up or break something". Now for me I would rather limp my D3 home wondering what the F$%k is wrong than tow it home from the middle of no where.

    Where this gets really frustrating is when you can not find anything wrong and the next hr/day etc it simply resets to normal and away you go.

    In saying this I have not had the D3 fail on me, I have had a limited transmission options warning come up as I was climbing some big hills in the Vic High Country but after a little rest it was sweet. Annoying but I preferred a 45 min enforced "tea break" than a transmission failure at the stop of Mt Pinnibar.

    Whilst there will always be a few example of failure, with any brand or vehicle I think the D3 and D4 has well and truly proven it self as very capable and reliable 4wd. There is no way it would have been award so many accolades/awards etc globally, year on year if they were not reliable.

    I think the point Celtoid is making is the perception they are unreliable is something that seems to be circulated by people who "had a friends dad's mate that once saw a D3/D4" and generally not by those who actually live with them day to day. Seems he is even more miffed by this perception being circulated by those who own other LR brands.

    Just my take.

    George.

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    I'll put my 2c in.I worked on mobile plant machinery for over 10 years,in that time we changed out countless engines,gearbox's,diff's etc but in the last few years manufacturers started putting fail safe lock outs in thier machines and the failures dropped overnight.Many many times I have had drivers with years of experience call up with problems that aren't problems,such as no gear selection,the reason they could not get gears was the machine was still going backwards when they selected a forward gear so the failsafe cut in.I would much rather have the vehicle tell me it's at it's limit before I ruin a 5K gearbox or run out of brakes etc but the biggest problem is people buy a vehicle with no idea how it operates,they don't bother with the manual or even know how to change a fuel filter or tyre and then complain that the vehicle broke down. Pat

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    Just to get this thread back on topic, it did start because of a dangerous power shut down,that dealer and LRA seemed to put in the too hard basket, or not interested basket ,when it did not reproduce itself.
    Safety modes are great to save expensive parts, but not at the price of putting you in a dangerous situation.
    Would be nice for a follow up from " Phil" to enlighten us of outcome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PAT303 View Post
    the biggest problem is people buy a vehicle with no idea how it operates,they don't bother with the manual or even know how to change a fuel filter or tyre and then complain that the vehicle broke down. Pat
    Oh so true !!

    and not only vehicles...

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    ENGINE SYSTEM FAILURE

    Hi all, (especially Phil),
    Here is what happened to me today.
    Towing my 2 ton boat along a straight flat road sitting on 100Klm's and bugger me, the red triangle comes up on the dash with the warning 'ENGINE SYSTEM FAILURE'. The temparature is 32 degrees and the temp guage on the dash is showing normal. I experience a loss of power.
    Pulled over on the side of the road and waited for a while. Then drove off very slowly and gently with the warning sign still on.
    Hard to say whether I had power back or not as I was nursing it along.
    Rang the dealer that I brought the vehicle from and he suggested taking it to the nearest LR dealer for them to check it out. The stealer also suggested that it could possibly be a valve in the turbo.
    The nearest dealer suggested that it was OK to drive to them (some 30Klm's away), which I am doing tomorrow morning.
    I'll let everyone know the outcome.
    BTW: It is a 2009 Oct build D4 SE 3.0.

    Interested to know if anyone else has had this problem.

    Cheers, Craig

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    Caver3, yes I have seen this on the UK website.
    Mine doesn't have the smoke though. Kinda hoping it is a power module upgrade like Phil's.

    Will be posting the outcome.

    Cheers, Craig

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    Hi

    This happened to me with my 2.5t Caravan in tow, the suspension dropped warning lights were ringing like mad, limited or no engine power. all this while doing 100km on the M5.

    I pulled over and turned off the engine, did a walk around and then started the car again, all was fine again?

    I took the car back to the dealer and they ran a diagnostic check, which according to them came up clear, nothing was wrong!

    It has not happened again.

    Cheers
    paul

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    Hi all,
    Just following up from my 'Engine System Failure' saga.
    I went to a LR dealer in Albury and they mentioned that this had happened to one of their customers and by doing a software upgrade (which included a Power Module Upgrade), it fixed the problem.
    Unfortunately for me, their computer systems were down and they couldn't do the upgrade, however they did manage to clear the fault code so it disappeared from the dash.
    Arrived home yesterday without the warning appearing again.
    Have it booked in at ULR to have the upgrade done.
    Cheers, Craig

    BTW Paul, turning the engine off and restarting it didn't work with mine.

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