D4 with LLAMS height adjustor and MTR (19's)

**Graeme** · 5th December 2010, 02:52 PM

Hi StornawaySA,

There is nothing vehicle-specific other than a good calibration. It sounds as though the vehicle hadn't fully raised to off-road height during the calibration procedure, but perhaps normal height was in the upper tolerance range. Either way, smaller increments have been calculated. I suggest the procedure be re-done at a time when the compressor is cold. I wait until the compressor has stopped even though the off-road LED has gone out as mine often makes a small adjustment at that time. I've also found that if the compressor had to cool whilst raising, the final off-road height is well short of 50mm so restart the calibration later. Level ground helps too so that the ecu doesn't make unnecessary compromises. You could measure the off-road height increase during the procedure and if not getting around 50mm lift then perhaps start again, trying for a lower normal height. Try starting to get to off-road height before returning to normal height, or raising from access height to see which results in the lowest normal height.

A test for a good calibration is to switch Llams from OFF to +50 whilst at off-road mode height then cancel off-road mode. The vehicle should not change height although it may start to lower (for about half a second) then raise again to where it was. This test is of no use if done at calibration time as it will most likely give the appearance of a good result. The setup (calibration) instructions are inside the lid of the module.

You could do with a switch that operates CCW so that the vehicle goes lower when the pointer is down and higher when up. Let me know if you'd like one. I think in most positions it doesn't matter in which direction the switch operates but where you have your switch, it seems more appropriate. Rather than have DPL stock 2 different switches, I'll just provide a CCW switch where it makes for a significant improvement and hope I don't have to make too many.

**Graeme** · 5th December 2010, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Stornoway SA

all, my LLAMS was fitted on Friday to my D4, in Adelaide, by Sovereign Autos on Angas St. Geoff there owns a D3 and I highly recommend them, for all servicing. My brother is having his D3 fitted with LLAMS by Sovereign this week. They should know LLAMS back to front by weeks end!!

Workshops can purchase from DPL at a discount and therefore could be pressured to charge less for fitting, having already made some profit on the kit.

**Celtoid** · 7th December 2010, 09:32 AM

Sounds great and the truck looks great with those shoes on it.....but how does the suspension modification rest with LR and your warranty?

**Redback** · 7th December 2010, 10:32 AM

Is there a link to LLAMS, I can't find it using Google

keeps coming up with LAMAS

**eddomak** · 7th December 2010, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Redback

Is there a link to LLAMS, I can't find it using Google

keeps coming up with LAMAS

Llams PTY LTD <-- Click here

On your Google Search Results Page there is a sentence at the top of the page that says:

"Showing results for llama. Search instead for llams"

Click on the 2nd link and it will force the search for llams

**Redback** · 7th December 2010, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by eddomak

Llams PTY LTD <-- Click here

On your Google Search Results Page there is a sentence at the top of the page that says:

"Showing results for llama. Search instead for llams"

Click on the 2nd link and it will force the search for llams

Thanks for that, I thought I did that, maybe I didn't, anyway it's in favourites for when it's time to buy, gotta get the vehicle first

Baz.

**CSBrisie** · 7th December 2010, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by Celtoid

Sounds great and the truck looks great with those shoes on it.....but how does the suspension modification rest with LR and your warranty?

I think we all know that any modification , no matter how small, puts a warranty at risk. Thats a Buyer Beware issue - I'm comfortable with it.

cheers!

**Graeme** · 7th December 2010, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by Redback

Is there a link to LLAMS, I can't find it using Google

keeps coming up with LAMAS

Here's a link to my thread:
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/verandah/1...d3-d4-rrs.html

**Celtoid** · 7th December 2010, 01:04 PM

Originally Posted by Stornoway SA

I think we all know that any modification , no matter how small, puts a warranty at risk. Thats a Buyer Beware issue - I'm comfortable with it.

cheers!

Good on you, hopefully it won't be an issue anyway.

I think it's a great idea as I find the speed control bloody annoying when you get on a track that you can go pretty quickly on but have the risk of hitting rough spots. I'd prefer to concentrate on getting rid of some of the speed safely without having to screw around jacking the suspension back up at the same time. With your system, it's no issue. As you know the D4 eats up a lot of rough stuff, allowing you to travel quite quickly.

I look forward to reading how you go with the tyres. I think there is a lot of negative talk about the 19"ers and very little real evidence with regards to wear, soft surface pressure down performance and side-wall strength, etc.

The more people that run a bit of variety will let us all be better informed. I know I'm still unsure of what to buy once the originals are worn out.

Cheers,

Kev.

**CSBrisie** · 7th December 2010, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Celtoid

The more people that run a bit of variety will let us all be better informed.

Totally agree. I'll give everyone a full update on how the 19inch rims and MTR's go post Vic High Country trip, which should give them a full workout. I've always held the view what is good enough for the G4 Challenge guys cant be too bad!

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